| geek_aejhfraser | October 10, 2008, 7:49 pm | #1 |
| Selling Free Software ?? Auction 181302357
The guy seems to be selling scorched 3D, a free tank game, in a 'sealed' case. The name almost matches and the quote is a direct match to the Scorched site
Is this legal ? Back in the old days shareware and recouping the cost of the media was allowed, but this seems to be a representation of free software as 'pay for use' software Any ideas ? |
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| geek_sirfer | October 10, 2008, 7:52 pm | #2 |
| That's a hard one Is under the GPL? (Gnu Public License?) |
| geek_overtounflyer | October 10, 2008, 7:54 pm | #3 |
| Sure does sound like S3D Which is GPL and all derivitives are GPL. Which means the seller can charge for the cost of the disc and shipping. But the seller cannot charge for the game itself. The seller also has to provide the source code on demand. |
| geek_aejhfraser | October 10, 2008, 7:54 pm | #4 |
| Not Sure I was just checking ... |
| geek_aejhfraser | October 10, 2008, 7:55 pm | #5 |
| GPL Confirmed Yepwonder what Trade Me's policy is on that ? I should read the T & C I guess :-) |
| geek_overtounflyer | October 10, 2008, 7:56 pm | #6 |
| I've asked on teh auctionIs this software licensed under the GPL? Will you include the source code with the game? |
| geek_aejhfraser | October 10, 2008, 8:01 pm | #7 |
| Perhaps he has modded it- Based on the Scorched 3D software programme
- All from the thriving Open Source Community, this game keeps changing
I guess it's a bit more obvious if one reads the details, and the GPL doesn't forbid - one just has to provide the source |
| geek_hunnyb1 | October 10, 2008, 8:03 pm | #8 |
| Quite legal You can sell GPL software for any price at all, from $0 upwards. There's nothing remotely illegal or even immoral about this, and the Free Software Foundation explains why here; http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html |
| geek_flewy | October 10, 2008, 8:03 pm | #9 |
| Thats what i want to know bouit casey-a all he sell is freeware Audacity being one of them, its a 3mb download yet it says dvd in his auction LOL |
| geek_overtounflyer | October 10, 2008, 8:03 pm | #10 |
| Think I'll pass on the auction though Given that i can get it for free and get mods for free as well. |
| geek_overtounflyer | October 10, 2008, 8:04 pm | #11 |
| Theaudacity of selling Audacity! hahaha |
| geek_overtounflyer | October 10, 2008, 8:06 pm | #12 |
| Maybe I should list a DVD software bundle. Put together OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, GIMP, Inkscape, VLC, Celestia, Blender, Audacity, Miro and Avidemux. |
| geek_pawlovers | October 10, 2008, 8:08 pm | #13 |
| Frostwire - $30WTF? |
| geek_overtounflyer | October 10, 2008, 8:08 pm | #14 |
| Heck, I'll make LiveDVD linux distro and call it a software bundle with bult in security suite for safe browsing :)How much would you pay for all this? $500? |
| geek_aejhfraser | October 10, 2008, 8:10 pm | #15 |
| Just as long as it's 'Sealed' :-) And you could include a professionally made case cand cover too .. Just be sure to use Creative Commons images ! |
| geek_hunnyb1 | October 10, 2008, 8:10 pm | #16 |
| Why not? One thing to be aware of; trade me have a policy against selling anything on writeable media, even if the sale is 100% legal. |
| geek_flewy | October 10, 2008, 8:11 pm | #17 |
| Thats what i dont get, last week i got TM to pull bout 6 of his auctions for frostwire and audacity , but i guess it really is legal my bad, just dont think its ethical tho. |
| geek_rhys.m | October 10, 2008, 8:13 pm | #18 |
| Put the same auction up for 50 cents and if someone buys it just email them the link. |
| geek_sirfer | October 10, 2008, 8:14 pm | #19 |
| Two words caveat emptor |
| geek_swivel | October 10, 2008, 8:34 pm | #20 |
| Well with a printer I can supply the cases lol |
| geek_ferita | October 10, 2008, 11:23 pm | #21 |
| GPL and GNU software can be sold for whatever price anyone wants to sell them for. Just because they are opensourced doesnt mean you have to give them away for free. You can sell open office for 50 bucks a pop if you want as long as you have a cd printed for it. |
| geek_dunedin_ree | October 10, 2008, 11:26 pm | #22 |
| There probably is a geniune market for selling things downloaded (with GPL) and put on a CD (and sold for cost + a few $s to make it worth it), since not everyone has broadband. But I can see why TM has a blanket rule against it, too much of a mine-field when actual copied software enters the mix. |
| geek_puddleduck00 | October 11, 2008, 1:32 am | #23 |
| The dude has every right to sell it..but posted this "Hi, this is the the latest retailed packaged version not just some cheap download from the net" ..Bullshit artist. |
| geek_hunnyb1 | October 11, 2008, 9:15 am | #24 |
| Plenty of market our kids make pocket money by burning Ubuntu CDs and selling them for $5. Lots of people are still on dialup and are happy to pay even thought they know it can be downloaded for free. |
| geek_logo | October 11, 2008, 4:49 pm | #25 |
| If you think he's selling it for too much (and I point the word "selling" as in that people are actually buying the stuff) then you can undercut him yourself. Free market forces will drop the price to what the market considers reasonable. |
| geek_overtounflyer | October 12, 2008, 10:52 pm | #26 |
| Got a response on the auction yes this is licensed under the gpl, source code is available on request as per the details of the gpl license |
| geek_mrfxit | October 13, 2008, 8:12 am | #27 |
| Been there done that HAD the chat with TM admin Regardless of it being paid or free software, IF YOU have burnt it on to cdr/dvdr YOURSELF, as opposed to getting a cd/dvd recording/manufacturing company to do it, then it's NOT allowed to be sold on TM. . . . dunedin_ree at is correct. The legal minefield of cdr/dvdr's infact NOT having the stated software loaded as stated in the auction combined with possible pirated software loaded etc etc is simply too much of a risk for TM to allow personally burnt cdr/dvdr's for sale on TM |
| geek_mrfxit | October 13, 2008, 8:14 am | #28 |
| However TM do allow linux variations to be sold on TM on a reguler basis but under what TM admin ruling I have no idea. |
| geek_mrfxit | October 13, 2008, 8:20 am | #29 |
| ALL internet companys & individuals using the web Are under an obligation to "cease & desist" when requested . . http://tinyurl.com/4oggmj . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cease_and_desist . . . & I suspect it's basicly partly under these guidlines why TM don't allow personally burnt cdr/dvdr's for sale |
| geek_mrfxit | October 13, 2008, 8:49 am | #30 |
| Arrhh yes FULLY Gpl & gnu licenced software along with the source code IF asked for. Key words "FULLY gpl & gnu licenced" |
| geek_woogmo | October 13, 2008, 11:13 am | #31 |
| thats TM using their judgment on auctions, similar their allowance of 9.6ghz processors, except in this case it is a good idea |
| geek_swivel | October 13, 2008, 6:43 pm | #32 |
| Here's windows sp3 Auction Number: 182224499 |
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