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Dreading asking this question but here goes...

geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 1:17 pm#1
Dreading asking this question but here goes... I have never built a pc from scratch before, nor have I been a spec junkie... or a gamer... I know the basics and I know how to make a faulty one work but that's about it. Soooo... I have decided I would like to build my first computer. I don't intend it to be a hard out gaming machine but I wouldn't mind it being able to cope with a bit of entertainment such as music and video. I also want to build it on a budget... I want cute (I'm female) but not overly expensive. EG, this is the case I am thinking of starting with: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Components/Cases-power-supplies/Cases/auction-146196380.htm<br /> ... Now I'm trying to choose a mobo... I want one that can handle at least 4GBs of RAM... something perhaps middle of the road... and I want all components brand new... any suggestions?
geek_deodarMarch 23, 2008, 1:45 pm#2
Intel Pentium P4 handles 4 Gigs Plus they're still under developement.Try Computer Lounge for ideas & good packages,since you've become cute.There's some useful sites too,like Build Your Own Computer.With Robert.
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 1:47 pm#3
Awesome... will take a peek... thanks
geek_sighkickMarch 23, 2008, 2:36 pm#4
If you want cute and functional... You can't go past a ASUS Barebones case [includes psu, motherboard, floppy drive all cables] - you just provide the CPU & heatsink/fan, RAM, SATA HDD and DVD Player/Burner. I must have bought the last of the ASUS Terminator T2 with a Socket 478 but you can get the latest for about $235: - ASUS V3-P5945GC Micro TOWER Barebone, LGA775, FSB 1333/1066/800, Core 2 Quad & Core 2 Duo, Intel 945G Chipset, Intel Graphics Integrated, 4xDIMM DDR2 667/533, 1*PCIE x16, 2*PCI, 1*PCI-e, 4 SATA, Lan, 4*USB, 1*IEEE1394 - http://www.qmb.co.nz/p.aspx?107066
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 2:59 pm#5
*cries* that's not cute! Ok, here's what I found: cute case as in post #1 (x-mask blue). Philips 200CW8FB 20" Wide LCD Monitor 5ms DVI, AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core 2.2GHz Socket AM2, Asus M2N-X Plus AMD Socket AM2 Athlon 64 CPU ATX nForce4 430, KingMax 2GB DDR 2 800 Memory, Seagate Barracuda 160GB SATA Hard Drive, DVD Writer and Vista Home Premium. ... What do you think? Middle of the road enough or too minimalist?
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 3:00 pm#6
Oh... I forgot... the price of the above including shipping of parts is: $940
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 3:04 pm#7
Not fond of ASUS mainboards nor AMD (AT THE MOMENT) lol, but heck that IS personal preference, AND i AM a specs junki, and build for performance and reliability lol...
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 3:06 pm#8
So... got any recommendations sexylady? What do you like?
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 3:06 pm#9
Whatever you do get a decent Power Supply to run things, i personaly would NOT use the one that comes with that case. After all you can have great equipment but if the thing that is EXPECTED to power everything is sub-standard you WILL run into problems.
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 3:10 pm#10
Personaly Top of the main board selection as far as manufactures (only my personal preference) 1st Intel, close second Gigabite or DFI. Processors at the moment of choice would be Intel Core 2 Duo's, Memory would be Kingston (Value Range for price and compatibility)
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 3:11 pm#11
**Gigabyte** sorry fat fingers ...
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 3:12 pm#12
Enermax, Thermaltake, Cool Master in Power Supplies.... however they don't always come cheap... Seagate in the Hard Drive as they seem to be reliable and come with 5yr warranty
geek_dougstringerMarch 23, 2008, 4:50 pm#13
For reliability, it's hard to go past an Intel Mb & intel cpu. I used to use amd/gigabyte but have had much less problems since crossing to the dark side of I & I. I only build about 8 a month, so I'm not a big user.
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 4:54 pm#14
I agree dougstringer i currently use Intel board and Intel CPU, cant beat them really for reliability...
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 5:08 pm#15
Well, I certainly see your point... but when I tried to upgrade a few parts I went from $940 to $1300+ ouch... lol... will just have to hunt for a bargain I guess.
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 5:13 pm#16
Savage How much was the main board and CPU you were originaly looking at? let me see if i can find an alternitive
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 5:19 pm#17
$95 for the mobo $100 for the CPU - both brand new
geek_dougstringerMarch 23, 2008, 5:27 pm#18
Intel D945GCNL from $105.15 & E2160 from $99.37 would be my recommendation. Prices from pricespy.
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 5:32 pm#19
That mobo can only support 2GB of RAM
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 5:32 pm#20
I looked at that one doug but savage requested 4GB that board can only take max of 2gb. and no PCIe slot if they wanted to upgrade the graphics in future
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 5:33 pm#21
This would be my choice http://pcpacific.net/product_info.php?products_id=2880 $169.95 - Intel DP965LT
geek_dougstringerMarch 23, 2008, 5:42 pm#22
Actually D945GCNL has pcie graphics slot, but valid point on ram. Try D945GCLL from $134.95
geek_dougstringerMarch 23, 2008, 5:43 pm#23
Don't forget that 32 bit os will only see max 3.5Gb.
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 5:47 pm#24
Sorry doug, must of missed the PCIe slot.. on the D945GCNL
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 5:47 pm#25
Yep, I have included Vista Home Premium 64 bit in my price of $940
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 5:54 pm#26
D945GCLL from $134.95 is at least a BOXED set so 3 yr warranty.... nice enough board.
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 5:56 pm#27
Pity its only 10/100 ethernet as most of the others are 10/100/1000, but heck unless your running a gigabit networking system its not really needed.
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 6:03 pm#28
The monitor has a three year warranty, as does the motherboard. The RAM has a lifetime warranty and the Hard Drive has a 5 year warranty. The CPU and DVD writer warranties are not listed... will have to enquire.
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 6:09 pm#29
If you get boxed Intel i.e. with fan they have 3yr warranties....
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 6:13 pm#30
Intel CPU's that are not boxed/retail sets and dont come with heatsink and fan only have 12 mth warranties.... vs boxed/retail 36mths (and of course the heatsink and fan)
geek_art4ukiwiMarch 23, 2008, 6:31 pm#31
WOW this has been a great post... Love all the info ... knowledge is good. grin love that MOBO sexylady turned ya on to. hummm (looking around for 166 dollars) might upgrade... currently running a 3. gig Intel cpu.... ASUS board.... older
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 6:39 pm#32
Lol art4ukiwi i love intel main boards, and i absolutly LOVE my board although its not quite in the same price bracket.
geek_deodarMarch 23, 2008, 7:59 pm#33
Intel's a good choice Because AMD are about to become history.& Intel are focusing on power conservation with new CPU's.
geek_deodarMarch 23, 2008, 8:26 pm#34
Take your budget now & double it If you want graphics.I don't know of any cheap AGP cards.& a good card is almost as high tech as the rest of the computer.
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 8:48 pm#35
Yes but they dont need a graphics card for gaming, with the prices of PCIe being so affordable, the card doesn't have to be a great expense. really just basic Intel board that takes PCIe (or onboard graphics but has a PCIe slot for future) and 4gb memory suport with Core 2 Duo CPU.
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 23, 2008, 8:50 pm#36
Ok what about a socket 775 MSI mobo? with an intel core 2 duo? something along those lines? (I have access to cheap MSI mobos)
geek__sexylady_March 23, 2008, 11:54 pm#37
Socket 775 yes msi ... i don't like, had a few bad ones in the past, but may have just been model specific.
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 24, 2008, 12:03 am#38
Thanks sexylady fortunately I have an excellent relationship with Arche Technologies and they have the most awesome support team (I deal with them through working at Retravision part time)... so at least I know if I have a mobo failure through a purchase from them they will look after me.
geek_savagehurricaneMarch 24, 2008, 12:04 am#39
(Arche will supply me a MSI mobo...) re: relevance of previous post... it's late, lol
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