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| geek_nealeb |
June 26, 2009, 9:12 am |
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#1 | | Slow dial-up I'm on dial-up with Orcon in the Te Puke area (rural), and in the last week or two dial-up speeds have turned to custard, and frequently webpages won't even load. I'm sure it's a Telecom issue with lack of local network capacity. Anyone else having problems? | |
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| geek_drcspy |
June 26, 2009, 10:16 am |
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#2 | | Easy enough to check.......find a friend who is signed in with a different provider (say xtra for example) and put their dial connection on your pc for a short test....check the speed difference and if its faster then the issue is with your provider not the lines etc.. |
| geek_janeysue1 |
June 26, 2009, 12:27 pm |
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#3 | | Being rural.. It could be an electric fence short. Do you hear clicking on your phone line? |
| geek_drcspy |
June 26, 2009, 12:30 pm |
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#4 | | Could be anything but my suggestion will at least eliminate th eisp......... |
| geek_ferita |
June 26, 2009, 12:49 pm |
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#5 | | May need a rural modem they are made for electric fence country |
| geek_0800xford |
June 26, 2009, 1:18 pm |
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#6 | | grab another modem and swap them, they only last yay long, and for $5... |
| geek_drcspy |
June 26, 2009, 1:34 pm |
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#7 | | Fark...............eliminate eliminate eliminate.. ...............start with the simple no cost checks first......... |
| geek_0800xford |
June 26, 2009, 1:35 pm |
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#8 | | the ~easiest~ thing to do would be swap the modem. |
| geek_drcspy |
June 26, 2009, 2:12 pm |
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#9 | | That is assuming they HAVE a modem.......and i disagree anyway for two reasons: 1 - they may not be competant or want to open the pc and go fiddlng around inside ....and 2 - what's the point in swapping the modem IF it's the isp thats messign them around (this is not unheard of).....it's a DAMN sight easier to simply type in another dialup a/c for a starter...would take about two minutes..... |
| geek_0800xford |
June 26, 2009, 2:29 pm |
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#10 | | what if they have no mates with a dialup connection to borrow? you are extra combative today so i'm out of this thread. |
| geek_drcspy |
June 26, 2009, 3:05 pm |
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#11 | | And what if they dont have a spare modem and what if they dont have the skills to install one if they do have one ?...and what if........I still say it's easier to 'borrow' soemones connection details to check that FIRST.....it's the first thing I'd do |
| geek_nealeb |
June 26, 2009, 8:05 pm |
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#12 | | More info I'm running a 15" Applepowerbook with external USB modem. The modem is set to v.34 protocol, which goes a long way towards countering problems with line noise. The line is not especially noisy, and has no electric fence clicks. I also have an Apple iBook with internal modem, and the connection is just as slow. So the modem is not the culprit. |
| geek_drcspy |
June 26, 2009, 8:11 pm |
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#13 | | So try someone elses connection to at least eliminate the isp as the culprit.... |
| geek_0800xford |
June 26, 2009, 8:12 pm |
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#14 | | "Apple powerbook with external USB modem" a bombshell right there. |
| geek_boots0016 |
June 26, 2009, 9:57 pm |
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#15 | | and when the borrowed account is detected: The borrower looses out big time. Their ISP will cut them off and could go them for fraud. Not good advice drcspy. |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 4:35 am |
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#16 | | are you totally insane ?.......i've never heard such rubbish......what total idiocy.....'fraud' rofl.....get real. You can put ANYONES dialup account onto your computer (with their permission of course). Far out. Do you think - as a tech for some years that I'm so stupid that I would give out advice leading to a result you've imagined ?.....I'm completely flabbergasted that you could come up with such an idiotically incorrect statement.......INSANE.....PLEASE detail EXACTLY where you got the information from. This is STUPIDITY at it's worst. And misinformation. Amazing !!! |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 4:40 am |
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#17 | | Unbelievable . |
| geek_hakatere1 |
June 27, 2009, 4:49 am |
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#18 | | Have done what the dr suggests many many times. |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 4:53 am |
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#19 | | Exactly..........i dunno where 'boots' gets their info from but it's possibly one of the most ridiculous statements i've seen on here. |
| geek_mrfxit |
June 27, 2009, 7:02 am |
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#20 | | & WTF U BOTH ON ABOUT .. Dailup accounts are totally independant of the landline account holder & nothing wrong with an external USB modem, it's how Apple noteboots get dailup modems connected, DUH |
| geek_mrfxit |
June 27, 2009, 7:08 am |
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#21 | | nealeb Thankyou for the extra info, it would have been nice to have it at the start of this thread. . . . The MAIN 1st things tech's "should" do when testing a dailup account is, BUT in any order depending on situation IS, [ reboot the computer / try a different dailup account / try a different modem / get a line test done / try a different computer / test YOUR modem & computer at a different house location] |
| geek_resolutionx |
June 27, 2009, 4:07 pm |
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#22 | | Actually it is true It is fraud I work for an isp and had some one trying to use dial up in one location and being a cheap ass not purchasing another connection for some one else to use it some where different in the country. Well the error msgs gave this away plus the logs (PE locations) so I would very careful if I was you trying to use some one elses connection "even" if permission has been "granted" by the owner its still fraud to ISP'sRead the connection terms and conditions closely... |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 4:45 pm |
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#23 | | Dunno which isp you work for but i've been with xtra for years'n'years and ALWAYS have used my dialup a/c at other locations when I wish, even when connected elsewhere, thre is NO 'error message' and they dont give a damn they just charge you $2.50 per hour if you have two connections at a time running.......I'm aware that 'freenet' USED to 'tie' the user to one phone line but MOST isp's DONT. Other wise when you move you'd have to get a 'NEW' a/c.....what rubbish......it's NOT 'fraud' at all .......duh ! |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 4:47 pm |
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#24 | | What garbage.........you'd also have to get a 'new' a/c if you went on holiday and dialled up from a 'new' location......Friggin bullsh*t |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 4:48 pm |
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#25 | | Oh and if you disagree.........why not mention who you work for and we'll all avoid them..... |
| geek_0800xford |
June 27, 2009, 4:52 pm |
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#26 | | if they had said it was "an apple" i wouldn't have made a comment. | |
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| geek_badaz_red |
June 27, 2009, 4:52 pm |
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#27 | | I am confused I have broadband but when i have a friend come here she logs into ihug under my name on dial up. so now is this illegal?. Odd thing is I have talked to ihug they have not said this is illegal |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 5:03 pm |
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#28 | | IT'S NOT ILLEGAL .......i've never heard such crap as that person posted......it just isnt' logical at all ! |
| geek_resolutionx |
June 27, 2009, 6:27 pm |
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#29 | | No its not illegal for the cust to use the dial up connection at a diff location thats the whole point of dial up derrrIt is illegal to give your username and password to someone else and for *them* to use it at a diff locationThat is the fraud part geeez hello simultanious logins no wonder you work for tscum prob from Manila to... |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 6:35 pm |
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#30 | | Um..........and HOW would any isp know WHO was doing the 2nd dialup huh ?........impossible. And why should they care ? at $2.50 per hour I'd say they'd be HAPPY. Hell my wife could be on the net at home and I could be a travelling salesman using my a/c all over the place or maybe just a student living in another town and using mummys dialup a/c......the isp would't give a damn as they're making LOTS of money from it...........ILLEGAL indeed ......ROFL. Things are only ILLEGAL if they're in contravention to an act of parliament. And theres NO act of parliament that says you cant use your dial up a/c in two locations at the same time. There MAY be some isp's who dont allow this but I'd be VERY suprised if this was the case as they ALL charge EXTRA for a 2nd connection running a tthe same timeas the initial one. |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 6:36 pm |
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#31 | | And I dont work for telecom you fool.....i have been a customer of theirs for many years and a tech for a long time also...... |
| geek_biker_69 |
June 27, 2009, 6:56 pm |
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#32 | | PersonallyI'd start by unplugging every device connected to the phone line and seeing if it makes any difference. Oh, and there's nothing 'illegal' about using a dialup account you're authorised to by the bill payer at more than one location. It might contravene the user agreement but that's unlikely - most ISPs will simply disconnect the first session or charge you extra, like Xtra does. |
| geek_biker_69 |
June 27, 2009, 6:59 pm |
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#33 | | At least every deviceexcet the modem... |
| geek_mrfxit |
June 27, 2009, 7:20 pm |
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#34 | | Ummmm 0800oxford nealeb told us about the Applle Ibook at & you commented about ""Apple powerbook with external USB modem" a bombshell right there" at , which is what I commented about at . .. . . Come on now, time to wake up. |
| geek_billybob57 |
June 27, 2009, 7:21 pm |
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#35 | | It's only if you use the same dialup at 2 location 's at the same time , and then they only do a charge for it...used to be anyway |
| geek_billybob57 |
June 27, 2009, 7:22 pm |
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#36 | | No need to pop a forehead vain over someones mistake though geez |
| geek_badaz_red |
June 27, 2009, 7:27 pm |
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#37 | | It is not illegal to give someone your name i just called ihug and asked them they said. this is up to you. its like taking your sky dish to someone elses house. quite legal |
| geek_badaz_red |
June 27, 2009, 7:29 pm |
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#38 | | 29what ISP do you work for. they sound like they have an odd ball service. I have heard of the 2.50 if two people on same dial up same time |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 7:35 pm |
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#39 | | Asked that one already and I reckon they've done a runner........ |
| geek_badaz_red |
June 27, 2009, 7:37 pm |
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#40 | | Embarrassed cos he was caught lol |
| geek_boots0016 |
June 27, 2009, 7:40 pm |
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#41 | | Humble apologies drcspy, didn't mean to trip your switch. Ok I'll back off a bit but some isp's will cut you off when they detect two computers using the same dialup account at the same time. This is obviously a knee jerk from customers sharing a dialup account |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 7:41 pm |
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#42 | | Hmmm............this *may* happen but I'd be more inclined to think they'll just grab the opportunity to charge a premium rate (as for example xtra do)....after all they're winning... |
| geek_boots0016 |
June 27, 2009, 7:44 pm |
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#43 | | Are they winningor just abusing their monopoly ? |
| geek_0800xford |
June 27, 2009, 7:44 pm |
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#44 | | i never said there was anything wrong with it, and i'm wide awake. |
| geek_drcspy |
June 27, 2009, 7:47 pm |
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#45 | | Rofl..."i'm wide awake" ala Alice Cooper 'welcome to my nightmare' ;-) |
| geek_0800xford |
June 27, 2009, 7:50 pm |
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#46 | | ha ha. and i think all i meant was it would have been handy to know that it was a: an apple and b: an external modem c: meh |
| geek_mrfxit |
June 27, 2009, 7:53 pm |
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#47 | | Boots yes correct Tho different isp's have diffent charges. I believe a couiple still disconnect a 2nd dual logon but most will simply charge the extra per minute fee for the 2nd logon while it's active (of course). This also applies to ppl that use a secondary email account name to logon. I can use my primery dailup account at home @ std charges/ a 2nd logon somewhere else at $2 per hour & OR if I use a different email acount name thats attached to the primery account, to logon then thats charged at $2 per hour. |
| geek_mrfxit |
June 27, 2009, 7:55 pm |
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#48 | | Nealeb After all that above. . .. . It still comes back to msg |
| geek_mrfxit |
June 27, 2009, 8:01 pm |
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#49 | | LOL oxford But they DID tell us before your comment. & |
| geek_0800xford |
June 27, 2009, 8:07 pm |
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#50 | | no, they didn't. READ the thread. was the FIRST mention of a: an apple and b: an external modem | |
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