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Telecoms new unlimited data plan

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geek_omzig July 1, 2009, 12:54 pm
#1
Telecoms new unlimited data plan http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/telecom-offer-59-a-month-all-you-can-eat-data-plan-with-throttling<br />-104476
geek_omzig July 1, 2009, 12:55 pm
#2
Link didn't work http://www.nbr.co.nz/

First story on this page at the moment
geek_kevin16 July 1, 2009, 12:56 pm
#3
Http://is.gd/1jyeI for you
geek_marky41 July 1, 2009, 1:00 pm
#4
I'm still going to stick to my golarge plan haha.
geek_hdmovies July 1, 2009, 1:56 pm
#5
Phew, I just changed ISPs and "shaping data" isn't something I'm interested in.
geek_bidda2 July 1, 2009, 1:58 pm
#6
Why would you change? It's $10 more. I wonder if the golarge plan will get the same shaping as that now though. Hopefully not
geek_hayster94 July 1, 2009, 2:20 pm
#7
It probably going to be really slow again. Id rather have a cap and be at full speed all the time
geek_mrtoken July 1, 2009, 3:44 pm
#8
Marky41 Go large is being stopped you will have to move
geek_johnf_456 July 1, 2009, 3:50 pm
#9
Mrtoken source? cant seem to find that mentioned on the forums or any sites
geek_marky41 July 1, 2009, 3:54 pm
#10
Mr Token Where does it say that? I don't think I saw it on the article ? :S
geek_kylestyle July 1, 2009, 5:01 pm
#11
I hope it's not going to slow my Go Large to a crawl like it did last time they did this. Speeds on Go Large have been fantastic once all the 24/7 downloaders got fed up and left. I hope they don't have another influx of torrenters coming onboard once this is up-and-running, and have measures in place to prevent the entire network slowing down if the same thing happens again. Not all that pleased by this news, to be frank..
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 5:06 pm
#12
where did you read that I signed ,not literally, a contract for 2 more years with a free modem thrown in, how can they break that? , unless with some nice compensation for me
geek_kevin16 July 1, 2009, 5:09 pm
#13
'back to the future' para from above link 'Two years ago, its Go Large plan was taken offline after the Commerce Commission said Telecom had failed to highlight the fine print. Telecom paid Go Large customers $130 to $160 compensation each to head off a Fair Trading Act prosecution.',. simply means no new signups,.. exsisting customers still get it till they change plan/provider,..
geek_mysteryman007 July 1, 2009, 5:09 pm
#14
When i was on the golarge plan years ago it sucked! do they still have the top 10% get traffic shaped? if you are a repeat offender they would shape your connection constantly. I ended up ditching telecon when xnet offered unlimited free national. Back on xtra again (not my choice) & a small 10GB plan, but ive leeched for 5+ years so im not to fussed about downloading huge amounts anymore.
geek_mone July 1, 2009, 5:16 pm
#15
Telecom has a retarded definition of 'unlimited' flat rate broadband. Broadband Throttling means there is a data cap.
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 5:17 pm
#16
I just waited it out new it would get better laughed at all the "abandon ship" people I thought "seeya suckers" , it's great , except for a stint when they capped youtube so much it wasnt worth using, all good now though, woo hoo
geek_baker-assoc July 1, 2009, 6:01 pm
#17
For all you people saying you will stay on golarge YOU CANT

you will be automatically moved to this new plan.
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 6:12 pm
#18
Not for $59 we won't be till our current contract expires or I will be talking to the powers that be
geek_omzig July 1, 2009, 7:06 pm
#19
Go large Yep I cant see how they can make us pay another $10.00 for a plan we are already on.
geek_swivel July 1, 2009, 7:23 pm
#20
whats hard to understand, Unlimited data for $59. No data cap. so not retarded
geek_mrtoken July 1, 2009, 7:29 pm
#21
Hi guys sorry just came back online, the go large plan is being removed and people on go large will be moved to the new plan, you are correct you will have to pay $10 more than go large however there is no speed cap on uploads as there is on go large (128). Info from media phone call and also on geekzone.
geek_mrtoken July 1, 2009, 7:32 pm
#22
Billybob57 you will not have a contract for 2 years on go large, after the door closed on that then no new signs up for that plan could take place, if you were on it then telecom would keep you on it for a month by month contract, also in the T&C's there will be something in there saying they can change plans or remove them. my understanding is that the new plan will have a ADSL2 profile as well which means better speeds if you are close to an exchange (under 2.5k's)
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 7:36 pm
#23
No what happened was they rang me and said I could have a wireless modem if I signed up for another 2 years which I said yes to ,Contract!. So if I was to say shove it up ya they will come up with " you signed for 2 years" ?? or can I cancel now.
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 7:39 pm
#24
If they are going to shaft me as soon as I finish the so called BS contract (I bet they will call it a $ rate increase) . they will lose all my business, screw them
geek_mrtoken July 1, 2009, 7:42 pm
#25
Billybob57 you well end up finding that the new plan will be better anyway, greater upload can = better downloads, they are also bring in new caching tech which means microsoft patches etc will come down a lot faster. $10 a month = 33 cents a day extra
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 7:44 pm
#26
If upload is a lot faster I might not be so pissed .
geek_mrtoken July 1, 2009, 7:45 pm
#27
Also billybob57 was it for the go large plan ? or just telecom internet, my understanding is that CSR's were not to sell go large in anyway, so it all depends on what they have told you. Was it "stay with telecom BB for 2 years and we will give you a wireless modem"
geek_mrtoken July 1, 2009, 7:46 pm
#28
Billybob57 no limit on upload with it, at the moment you are rated at 128k, the new plan removes this and i have heard of speeds getting up to 600 - 800 in tests with a adsl2 profile for upload
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 7:56 pm
#29
It's still the principle not the money really that gets me wild, I bet they had this all planned out when they offered the free modems worth $199 or something, they knew they'd get the outlay cost back when they implemented this new plan and had us contracted in
geek_bidda2 July 1, 2009, 7:59 pm
#30
I would be interested in upload speeds for standard adsl. If it's better than the 128 cap it might be worth considering. Those people with adsl2 could stand to benefit from it if they can avoid using it during the shaping hours.
geek_mrtoken July 1, 2009, 8:15 pm
#31
Billybob57 I really cant comment on the planning time, I know telecom has been working hard on new tech to bring it back and make it work this time, I do know it has been in testing for the last few weeks with good results with people on it.
geek_mrtoken July 1, 2009, 8:18 pm
#32
Well look at this way would you like to have a plan that you dont have to worry about extra money or being at dial up speed after a cap, sure go large has that now but not with uncapped upload speeds, that alone is worth the $10 as with more things moving "online" i.e. backups etc then upload does start to count, I know for myself that our flat was having problems with online games as more of them needed more upload speed, flatmate on ps3 me on PC = 1 person gaming at a time
geek_kevbos July 1, 2009, 8:39 pm
#33
This is my question does anyone know if the new go large is adsl 2+ since go large at the moment isn't
geek_johnf_456 July 1, 2009, 8:41 pm
#34
Yea but also this new go large "big time" will be throttled more. so if ur a heavy user you will notice the throttling. As go large is not throttled like the new plan will be. (specific times)
geek_johnf_456 July 1, 2009, 8:42 pm
#35
yes it is adsl 2+
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 8:43 pm
#36
Does adsl 2+ only run on those big fat cables they put up last year?
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 8:44 pm
#37
Will only see a difference I mean .
geek_bidda2 July 1, 2009, 9:26 pm
#38
You'll only get adsl2 if the cabinet you are connected too has been upgraded. (cabinet probably isn't the correct terminology) There's a page on the telecom site to check if you able to get it.
geek_gizmo July 1, 2009, 9:51 pm
#39
Go Large I thought Go Large had been upgraded to ADSL2+ as a few months ago when I came back from holiday my speeds increased amazingly.

Download speedtest sits between 10 and 18Meg, but the upload speed still shows as 124k.

I used to get download speeds up to about 340KBps now they are about 1.8MBps.
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 9:56 pm
#40
Check here damn Oct 2010 at mine http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/speed/adsl2
geek_billybob57 July 1, 2009, 9:58 pm
#41
I wont get it anyway , my cables are underground from the post and didnt upgrade them, they changed all my neighbours cause they connect to their houses above ground ...if thats why they put in new cables
geek_spyware July 1, 2009, 11:28 pm
#42
Nothing to do with cables. It is to do with the hardware in exchanges and cabinets - the protocol used on the lines.
geek_spyware July 1, 2009, 11:33 pm
#43
On top on existing infrastructure there are 3600 cabinets being installed with fibre connecting them to exchanges. No fibre is run directly to any houses. Eventually fibre to the premises will require running fibre to every house.
geek_mrfxit July 2, 2009, 8:03 am
#44
FFS nuking fumnuts "Bigtime" is designed to allow normal surfing by the average person but will throttle ONLY those ports used by P2P applications. All other ports will be full speed with NO throttling/ port shaping. P2P will be on a basic 20hr restriction except during a couple of hr's in the early morning. As certain other ports become common for P2P usage, then those will be throttled as well.
geek_mrfxit July 2, 2009, 8:08 am
#45
Basicly = Std "normal & average usage" doing general surfing & using ftp & download manager type downloads (drivers/ games etc) WON'T be effected . .. Anybody using any type of P2P prg services will be throttled during the day & most of the night.
geek_mrfxit July 2, 2009, 8:13 am
#46
"Go Large" got screwed up by leachers sucking 100/ 150 & have even heard of ppl using 200gb a month on a single BB connection. Theres always going to be a limit as to how much bandwidth ANY & ALL Isp's can supply & (of course) that has to be shared throughout NZ. Big leachers took more then their share which is why Go Large turned to custard so fast after release. Hopefuly with some reliable port shaping on the Big Time plan, this won't happen again.
geek_cybertao July 2, 2009, 8:21 am
#47
I'm more interested in throughput and want to go the other way. I'd like a megabit or two that's always a megabit or two. They can prioritize traffic and I'd like to buy some prioritized bandwidth. Not 'as fast as your line can go, depending on who else in your neighbourhood is doing the same.'
geek_mrfxit July 2, 2009, 8:27 am
#48
Cybertao THAT. . .. Is a constant restriction that NO ONE can avoid. Can't get faster speeds if your local exchange/ph lines & computer etc arn't up to the job required
geek_cybertao July 2, 2009, 8:31 am
#49
Think about it from a different perspective. If I buy 1MB/s of bandwidth, my neighbour buys 1MB/s, the guy down the road does...eventually the equipment won't be able to handle that many fixed bandwidth customers. So they have to upgrade the equipment to provide for the existing profitable customers, and to provide for more future customers. That last bit of the upgrade gets paid for by people on uncapped plans that feed off the scraps.
geek_mone July 2, 2009, 9:37 am
#50
Technically it means Telecom can restrict you to dial up speed during peak hours every day. How is that flat rate broadband? Thats flat rate dialup.
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