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Im loving Ubuntu :)
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| geek_-ecycle- |
March 17, 2010, 5:31 pm |
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#1 | | I don`t know why I stayed with Windows for so long... . . | |
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| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 5:33 pm |
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#2 | | because it's easier |
| geek_btoogood |
March 17, 2010, 7:15 pm |
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#3 | | good to see another linux convert |
| geek_flewy |
March 17, 2010, 7:25 pm |
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#4 | | one zombie at a time. |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 7:27 pm |
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#5 | | i'm trying to convert one person a day |
| geek_little_egypt |
March 17, 2010, 7:27 pm |
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#6 | | I'm fed up with Ubuntu. Lastest stupid decision was to remove GIMP from the default install so they can pack more social networking crap into it. Someone though putting the min/max/close buttons on the left side of the windows like OSX was a good idea (there's no good reason for this, it's just going to confuse and annoy people), plus they shortened the test cycle on Lucid and A3 is the buggiest Ubuntu alpha I've ever tested. I've switched to Debian and this time I might actually stay switched. Well done canonical! |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 7:51 pm |
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#7 | they removed gimp?
remove open office, yeah fine, but not gimp.
or evolution mail
ubuntu one =x |
| geek_flewy |
March 17, 2010, 8:15 pm |
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#8 | | just compile ya own ;) ( might actually try that one day :) |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 8:18 pm |
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#9 | | ever tried arch? it's pretty sweet, kind of intense though especially for us noobs... |
| geek_little_egypt |
March 17, 2010, 8:24 pm |
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#10 | | Well no, don't remove OOo either. But GIMP is something I use a lot. Being able to boot the live CD and start editing MS Office documents, playing ppt's and touching up photos on someone's Windows box is damn handy. Photo editing is pretty close behind basic WP on the list of 'things regular people do' -- network storage and Twitter are way down the list. |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 8:27 pm |
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#11 | social networking stuff isn't something i use either
but open office is massive and i never use that either, or evolution, or ekiga, or empathy...
there's 200MB needlessly downloaded.
maybe a roll your own ubuntu is on the cards? |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 8:28 pm |
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#12 | | MORE NEW STUFF CAPS111eleven |
| geek_rua69 |
March 17, 2010, 8:30 pm |
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#13 | | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 8:32 pm |
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#14 | | totally, i use usually roll my own debian, but ubuntu... =s |
| geek_rua69 |
March 17, 2010, 8:37 pm |
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#15 | | I'll be interested to see Mint's take on 10. 04. They've always made a better Ubuntu IME and may restore gimp. |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 8:38 pm |
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#16 | | i like how mint comes with thunderbird not evolution |
| geek_flewy |
March 17, 2010, 8:44 pm |
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#17 | | it also comes with gimp ;) |
| geek_duggin |
March 17, 2010, 8:48 pm |
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#18 | | Steady, the wind's changed you know. :) |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 8:48 pm |
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#19 | | semi o/t i've just started playing around with layers, i wish i'd done this ages ago! |
| geek_flewy |
March 17, 2010, 9:04 pm |
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#20 | | what, geez dude your years behind. |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 9:12 pm |
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#21 | | heh, i just play with whatever interests me at the time. |
| geek_woogmo |
March 17, 2010, 9:13 pm |
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#22 |
image layers ? in gimp ? |
| geek_flewy |
March 17, 2010, 9:30 pm |
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#23 | | ? |
| geek_0800xford |
March 17, 2010, 9:35 pm |
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#24 | | yes? |
| geek_7of9 |
March 17, 2010, 10:58 pm |
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#25 | | Nice to see another convert welcome to Linux. At least you don't have to waste any money anymore so you will save yourself money on removing viruses, virus protectors etc. Yeah 0800 you got to love Arch its not for the faint hearted though but you know when you find arch or Gentoo easy then you are in the elite club. |
| geek_kane199 |
March 18, 2010, 11:08 am |
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#26 | | something will go wrong. you won't know how to fix it and end up back in windows. | |
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| geek_0800xford |
March 18, 2010, 11:13 am |
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#27 | gentoo is hallowed uber ground, i see a mythbusters gentoo special "does gentoo actually work? " XD
at least arch is worth the time and effort, it's pretty fast and nice and light on it's feet and i really like how during the install it tells you which files you might like to edit. |
| geek_little_egypt |
March 18, 2010, 11:35 am |
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#28 | | You may well be right, but the user's lazyness and stupidity is hardly any fault in Linux. |
| geek_0800xford |
March 18, 2010, 11:37 am |
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#29 | | repartee |
| geek_gsimpson |
March 18, 2010, 11:57 am |
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#30 | | There is a lot of help on the Ubuntu forums |
| geek_little_egypt |
March 18, 2010, 12:08 pm |
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#31 | There's even more help on the ubuntu IRC channel! !
Be careful searching the forums too; check that the 'solution' you find is for a recent version of ubuntu, preferably the same version you're using. There are many ancient and convoluted howto's on the Ubuntu forums, and things that needed twenty lines of shell commands and building things from source in Hoary are likely to be nothing more than a checkbox somewhere in Karmic. |
| geek_bidda2 |
March 18, 2010, 12:09 pm |
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#32 | | Indeed. I found the arch install surprisingly easy. Even getting wpa_supplicant for wireless setup was fairly easy with the available documentation. And it was nice not having all the extra crap installed. In saying that, I then went and installed gnome and ruined it all. I really need to check out a different DE |
| geek_0800xford |
March 18, 2010, 12:11 pm |
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#33 | i put gnome on it too for some reason, i'd like to see [have] an arch/kde install
*COUGH GAG SPLUTTER* |
| geek_erwins69 |
March 18, 2010, 3:49 pm |
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#34 | | Yeah but not a lot of it is helpful or even useful. Ubuntu is trying to be everything to everybody. They stuff things up with every (premature) release as little_egypt described and they aqre trying to steer users towards using more and more proprietary software, the very antithesis of what Linux is about. Ubuntu is Debian done wrong. |
| geek_duggin |
March 18, 2010, 3:52 pm |
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#35 | I know why I did, but with the help of kind folks in here who came down from the villages up in the mountains, I got mine up and running with all the eye candy.
Lovely.
Many thanks to rua69, 0800xford, cybertao, r. charles, a2znz, and others who helped me out late last night.
You guys are great! |
| geek_cybertao |
March 18, 2010, 3:54 pm |
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#36 | That's how I feel. If I wanted someone else to control what's on my computer and what it does then I'd install Windows.
Ubuntu is a good introduction for people new to linux and trying it out without experienced assistance, but think most should move on once they have cut their teeth on it. |
| geek_0800xford |
March 18, 2010, 3:57 pm |
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#37 | spread the love, man, spread the love!
www.shopfabu.com/mediac/400_0/media/SpreadTheLove. jpg |
| geek_0800xford |
March 18, 2010, 3:58 pm |
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#38 | if Ubuntu is Debian done wrong
then Mint is Ubuntu done right |
| geek_little_egypt |
March 18, 2010, 4:26 pm |
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#39 | | If you're complaining about Ubuntu promoting the use of non-free packages, drivers and codecs then Mint is Ubuntu done even worse! |
| geek_erwins69 |
March 18, 2010, 4:28 pm |
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#40 | | Unfortunately the upgrade debacle puts many people (including myself) off it for life, and I used it from Hoary to Hardy. |
| geek_mark.p |
March 18, 2010, 4:29 pm |
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#41 | | Some are just not too bothered l_e and want "stuff" to work out of the box. Don't blame them. |
| geek_erwins69 |
March 18, 2010, 4:34 pm |
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#42 | That's what Windows is for.
Heaven forbid people might have to learn something! |
| geek_0800xford |
March 18, 2010, 5:03 pm |
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#43 | | HA! |
| geek_btoogood |
March 18, 2010, 7:26 pm |
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#44 | | hey little egypt not sure what you are using but i have ubuntu 9. 10 installed here and it still has gimp installed as wel as ooo and the likes not sure what you have done. |
| geek_0800xford |
March 18, 2010, 7:32 pm |
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#45 | | it's a lucid thing, not a karmic thing... |
| geek_umegaoka |
March 18, 2010, 7:34 pm |
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#46 | | Read the reasons for removal from the default install here (ars technica) http://tinyurl.com/yg9zg2u |
| geek_btoogood |
March 18, 2010, 7:37 pm |
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#47 | | my mistake and also Lucid is not at beta yet so things could change |
| geek_little_egypt |
March 18, 2010, 7:42 pm |
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#48 | I'm talking about the Ubuntu 10. 04 Alpha, the next Ubuntu release which will be out at the end of April. It no longer has GIMP on the CD and the default homepage and search has changed to Yahoo, which I think is a horrible decision no matter how well they got paid for it. Also it's buggy as hell at the moment and due to changes in the testing cycle I have a feeling it will still be fairly buggy in the final release.
There's lots of good stuff too though; the boot time goal was 10s on average hardware and they're pretty close already. Lucid boots FAST. Using the Nouveau driver instead of nv by default which is still only 2D but has better monitor detection, and with improved support for nvidia's non-free drivers you can install several at the same time and fairly easily switch between them. Also new version of likewise-open, have not tested this yet but in theory an ubuntu machine can be part of a windows domain, authenticate against AD, be admined from the server, sync folders and all that stuff. |
| geek_0800xford |
March 18, 2010, 7:52 pm |
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#49 | | yahoo |
| geek_badcam |
March 18, 2010, 7:55 pm |
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#50 | | UNR is good. | |
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