Aghh google is not my friend about phone data 3g

So i get 3g data , but what is it if there is a H where the data is happening or a G, rather than the 3g icon

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 7:27 am

H means HSPA which is still 3G but faster.

Your phone will switch over to HSPA mode when it is actually doing something and back to regular '3G' when its idle

geek_vtecintegra, Oct 31, 7:35 am

ok so what would just g mean! 2g!

i just bought a phone that said it was able for 2degrees, i live rurally, but MY lg and huawei both on 2degrees will use h data when on net but this new one will only use the slow 2g. SO effectively this is not a true 2 degrees phone i have just bought im guessing which slightly pisses me off.

I thought 2degrees used hdspa 900 network out of town and this new phone says it does have this but it seems not! Or would there be a setting i need to change!

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 7:46 am

What's the phone!

geek_vtecintegra, Oct 31, 7:47 am

the new one is motorola defy

i bought it new off here and they gave this link about the phone on the auction

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_defy-3514.php

Which says it goes on 900/2100 which is what was needed for 2 degrees but seems no go

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 7:52 am

It's probably its the Telecom compatible version then which does 850/2100 but not 900

You'd have to check up with your exact model number as there are quite a few different versions

geek_vtecintegra, Oct 31, 7:54 am

actually thanks i just looked on the box and it says wcdma 850/2100 gsm 850/900/1800/1900

So is this not false advertising! can i tell teh seller this ! and get money back!

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 7:59 am

Uhh, what! The box says "gsm 850/900/1800/1900", that means it DOES do 850/900/1800/1900 .

(Ignore the wdcma bit. that's the old Telecom network)

geek_little_egypt, Oct 31, 12:19 pm

i think you are worng there. gsm is the talk network wcdma is the 3g/data network. telecom xt runss on 850/2100 vodafone/2degrees runs off 900/2100

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 2:19 pm

It's a bit of a grey area, 900MHz WCDMA is required for "3G Broadband Extended" coverage (rural areas). Technically it does work on the Vodafone/2 Degrees network, just not in all areas. Still, if they linked to a description that said it had 900MHz WCDMA and it doesn't, then that is "item not as described" I guess.

geek_drsr, Oct 31, 2:34 pm

It's a bit of a grey area, 900MHz WCDMA is required for "3G Broadband Extended" coverage (rural areas). Technically it does work on the Vodafone/2 Degrees network, just not in all areas.

The description they linked to lists three different 3G network configurations: "HSDPA 900 / 2100, HSDPA 1700 / 2100, or HSDPA 850 / 1900". So with hindsight it would have been better to ask which one it was. But they make take it back anyway if you point out the problem.

geek_drsr, Oct 31, 2:34 pm

It's a bit of a grey area, 900MHz WCDMA is required for "3G Broadband Extended" coverage (rural areas). Technically it does work on the Vodafone/2 Degrees network, just not at 3G in the extended coverage areas.

The description they linked to lists three different 3G network configurations: "HSDPA 900 / 2100, HSDPA 1700 / 2100, or HSDPA 850 / 1900". So with hindsight it would have been better to ask which one it was. But they may take it back anyway if you point out the problem.

geek_drsr, Oct 31, 2:34 pm

i did ask drsr, and i was told they would configure it to whateva netwrok i was using . and tehy it COULD go on all of them.

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 2:44 pm

OP: check Settings--"Wireless and Networks"--Mobile Networks--Use only 2G networks is not set. Also have you tried a manual search for the 900 band in Network Operators--Search Networks!

geek_otako, Oct 31, 3:44 pm

bah, ok. I don't really know as much about cellphones as I should ;)

geek_little_egypt, Oct 31, 4:21 pm

put on a custom rom and change the baseband to the ones you need.

defy can do that

geek_quotejoss, Oct 31, 6:36 pm

lol defy may be able to. Jacqui cant. lol

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 6:44 pm

maybe the seller can

geek_quotejoss, Oct 31, 6:49 pm

my defy is running 900/2100 and its telecom, guess i should change it

geek_quotejoss, Oct 31, 6:53 pm

i actually think it will run on skinny fine and would rather be on that . so might change to that see how i go. now if anyone could look at my other thread and help me out that would be appreciated

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 7:06 pm

Definitely - with that version you won't get ANY service outside of the main centers

geek_vtecintegra, Oct 31, 7:22 pm

they are a pain to setup the first time on skinny, once you get it going its okay though.

last post in this explains it

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp!forumid=137&topicid=99734

geek_quotejoss, Oct 31, 8:13 pm

thanks joss, may need that further down the track in the meantime this phone is driving MAD

geek_jacqui248, Oct 31, 8:32 pm

right update, i put in a skinny sim. and voila changed one setting under access point and voila we are in action!. phone and internet working better than ever, now just gotta wait for hubby old number to get ported over

geek_jacqui248, Nov 3, 8:17 am

google is a fuckwit

geek_guest, Nov 3, 10:30 am