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mullett_007, Mar 5, 12:03am
hi would anyone know a rough cost of getting 2-3 'ports' installed in our home? Good crawl space and attic space with several unused phone jacks if that even helps. Not very clued up on this. Thanks for any help.

velenski, Mar 5, 12:37am
string how long? ,is wireless not an option ?

floydbloke, Mar 5, 12:41am
Many electricians offer this service. Best way is to get on the Google and get a couple of quotes in my view.

cookee_nz, Mar 5, 12:45am
Purely an hourly issue, rough rule of thumb, one hour per outlet should cover it, plus materials. Many sparkies can do it, but you could cut the cost significantly by running the cable yourself and leaving the ends for the cabler to terminate. Depends on what kind of finish you are looking for as well - flush wall plates look neatest, but require drilling up from underneath inside the wall cavity, careful measuring needed, proper tools etc. On the other hand, much cheaper is to simply drill a small hole between carpet and skirting and bring cable through that. Not quite as neat but if done carefully is still very effective and tidy. hth

queentee2, Mar 5, 1:10am
Same here. looks totally fine. My cables actually run the length of a small wall on top of the skirting board to, tidily. Crawl space very narrow and a flat roof. Looks tidy and it's fit for purpose.

cookee_nz, Mar 5, 1:35am
Re the old phone jacks, sometimes if you are very lucky the old telephone wiring can be used as a 'draw' to pull new Cat5/6 cable through but if it goes through dwangs and studs and right-angles this probably won't work.

mullett_007, Mar 5, 1:45am
Thanks for the input! reason why we are looking into it as the computer is stuck in the Longe and want to move it to another room, while we are at it we might as well 'future proof'. Have heard having too many devices run off the same router can be slow.

trade_menow, Mar 5, 3:15am
that only applies if your using wifi - but for cable its fine

newbie5, Mar 5, 4:17am
easy fix.
If you have phone jacks and power points in another room you want to use the just move the computer and modem there and plug the phone cable that goes from your modem into the jack in that room.
No need to rewire your house at all.

newbie5, Mar 5, 4:19am
I currently have 2 computers running off the same router and have no problems at all

mullett_007, Mar 5, 4:38am
Oh really? I had no idea I could do this. Thank you! There is a phone jack right where I want to move the computer to.

travis47, Mar 5, 5:49am
That is absolutely the ticket if yo have a phone jack right there. I wouldn't be in too much of a rush to network cable a house as a lot of devices are going wireless and you may find that most people will have limited use for stationary devices. The only time you may need a hard wired connection is if you are wanting high speed data transfer like from a remote media storage device or you have a several people all trying to use a wireless connection. Even with the wireless connection wireless routers are cheap and you can quite easily have a couple of separate wireless networks, one per person if you really want to.

spyware, Mar 5, 7:20am
What twaddle. Wireless is always the 2nd choice and with higher bitrate video streams (4K) always the worst choice. Why not use 1 Gbps wired technology using $2/metre cable rather than a prone to interference method that doesn't necessarily have one tenth the throughput.

And using a phone jack in a back room then isolates the Internet to that area of the house, what about the TV in the lounge, the bluray player, the apple tv, the Sky decoder (Internet imminent with firmware upgrade), the TiVo, the DNS server to redirect all the Netflix US DNS requests, the NAS box.

Install structured cabling in your house back to a patch panel in a central location. Run cable to 6 points in the lounge, 4 points in every other room and every ceiling for an access point. Install a PoE switch for the VoIP phones (SIP server maybe) and security cameras. Add a decent router, Mikrotik, maybe a Ubiquiti Edge Router or even a Cisco so you are ready for the fibre. You could have a fully wired house for maybe a few K.

travis47, Mar 5, 7:51am

And you think I am mad? You are going for a ridiculously over speced solution for the massive majority of homes. Possibly in the future if you get something that requires a high speed connection then put it in but to wire dozens of points and install high speed routers when you have no idea what you might need in the future is a waste. Unless you are tech mad and building a new house with no access what you are talking about is never going to be needed in most houses. I would rather tailor a solution to the home so the owner gets what they want and are not paying for a whole lot of extra stuff they don't need.

cookee_nz, Mar 5, 8:21am
Have to agree with this. Ironic that the posting started with 'what twaddle' - no offense spyware, future-proofing is one thing but I think that was just a bit of overkill and very free without OP's wallet :-) But I think I made the mistake of others, I just 'assumed' the OP would already be on Fibre, or just know they could plug their ADSL Modem into any (working) phone outlet, how easy it is to presume and overlook the obvious.

mullett_007, Mar 5, 9:04pm
Thanks everyone for the input, I have nfi what any of that is in that technical way of doing it so pretty sure we don't need it lol. Anyway I just can't get my head around how plugging my modem into the phone jack will work?! Do I just leave the wifi router where it is plugged into the black cable in thhe lounge? Sheesh I used to have a pretty firm grip on this stuff but it's all over my head now :)

gibler, Mar 5, 9:24pm
I love my DIY Cat6 gigabit wired network. just followed the pointless telephone/tv cables under the house. Cheap too.

newbie5, Mar 6, 3:15am
You can try it with the router where it is and just move the computer to where you want it but to get a better wifi then as said just take the modem with you into the other room and plug it into a phone and power point in that room.
You dont need to waste all that money as suggested by others for something you do not need.
I have my router in a spare room with my 2 computers and it works fine.

newbie5, Mar 6, 3:22am
If you read ops post before you gave all your input you would see op just wants to be able to move the computer not plug it into tv's dvd's all all the other techy bits you are suggesting.

csador, Mar 6, 3:23am
if you have easy access under your house to do cable runs then its worth doing if you are wanting higher thruput, e.g if you have a media box or NAS and are streaming to other devices. It isnt very difficult or expensive to do at all if you have rj45 crimping tool and you go somewhere cheap like surplustronics to buy the cabling/plugs etc

skin1235, Mar 6, 4:17am
you will still have"too many devices" regardless of how many plugs you have - you only have the one router to access the web
wireless if you have any faith in it, or run the new cat5/6 to endpoints and use a an 8port switch before the router, router can be on the shed as long as one cable connects it to the switch

mullett_007, Mar 6, 6:00am
Would rather leave router where is as its more central. Went to try out the phone jack in the Intended room but bugger it's not working so will have to get that looked At first. Cheers again for the simple solution, I don't know why the downer guy didn't tell me this the other week when he was here, he suggested the Ethernet thing hence my question.

king1, Mar 6, 6:09am
This won't work if you have a master filter installed and consequently a separate socket for ADSL

spyware, Mar 6, 5:25pm
Probably because the Downer guy was installing a dedicated unfiltered outlet for ADSL. All the other outlets are filtered and won't work by design.

When fibre arrives if you have no structured cabling then ONT and router will be installed near TV to make installs easier for the likes of Sky (it will shift to a technology called Radio over Fibre when Sky determine what the modern way is). And fibre won't be a choice as the telephone exchanges and copper services are ceasing around 2020.

spyware, Mar 6, 5:48pm
With Netflix NZ 18 days away leaving router near TV and doing some simple data cabling is an option that allows to place computer at other end of house, install a wireless access point on ceiling for iPads, iPhone and Android devices and gives TV/Apple TV apps access to Lightbox and Netflix via wire for best performance (remembering that fibre is not far away from install).

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