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Very Slow Start-up| geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 11:11 am | #1 | | Very Slow Start-up......................Just timed start up and it was 1 min. 44 secs. from pressing start button up to 'enter password' window. After accepting password, it then starts loading(didn't time how long it took) but maybe all-up, could be 3mins. or just under!!!!!!!!! Any comments welcomed, thanks. It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop A100, bought Jan.07, Harvey Norman. |
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| | geek_mustang23 | July 18, 2008, 11:12 am | #2 | | Did it come pre-loaded with Norton Anti-Virus or Norton Internet Security Suite? | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 11:15 am | #3 | | If you go Start- Run - type in msconfig and then click OK look in the startup tab, how many things have ticks in the boxes? | | geek_1clickaway | July 18, 2008, 11:20 am | #4 | | A Few Things That MIGHT Be Happening; Trojan files is my bet: try grabbing the latest antivir (free-av.com) and Spybot Search n Destroy (www.safer-networking.org) Also grab CCleaner (www.ccleaner.com) run those and see if that helps :D | | geek_gyrogearloose | July 18, 2008, 11:27 am | #5 | | Defragment the C:\ drive . | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 11:28 am | #6 | | Mustang23 Yes, it came with Norton(until it expired) and I now have latest version AVG Free edition. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 11:30 am | #7 | | Gyrogearloose Already did defrag.yesterday. | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:30 am | #8 | | I prefer to use ccleaner startups do disable startup items...startups
CCleaner/tools/startup can remove applications or disable, which is a good choice then delete if you really wont need them in the future from starting when PC starts-up reducing the amount of time when starting & Ram reserved for these applications/programs
using these for online databases to findout what they are
type in the name for identification from a online data base http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/ http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php?submit=&filter=&submit.x=13&submit.y=4 | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 11:32 am | #9 | | If u defrage the c drive does it realy make it faster? | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:32 am | #10 | | Here's ccleaner instrutions for those that dont know how to use it...http://tmcmb.wikispaces.com/ccleaner | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 11:32 am | #11 | | I would suggest Ccleaner to disable the startup items as well icioufa, i just thought it was a quicker way to get an idea of how many things they have at start up, if lots then i would have suggested Ccleaner ;) (with your lovely copied instructions of use to follow) | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:35 am | #12 | | Re it places the items back into the correct position, so they dont have to search from where the last time the were placed on you hdd... | | geek_mustang23 | July 18, 2008, 11:37 am | #13 | | Re:6 Did you remove it via the control panel uninstaller, or download the removal tool from their website? The removal tool is the sure-fire way to remove all remnants of norton, whereas the Control Panel uninstaller has caused many problems in the past. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 11:38 am | #14 | | Sexylady Done what you said; four boxes are ticked(but all four looks 'faded' in colour. Top circle 'ticked' and reads: normal start-up load all device and services. | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 11:39 am | #15 | | Ok i might do a defrag now. . | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 11:43 am | #16 | | When you are there it seems you were looking in the General tab - you need to click on the Startup tab, and see how many things are ticked in there :) don't untick anything just look/count then close it | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:44 am | #17 | | Anyone can use any off my instructions in posts more than happy, it's for the good of the users. also am happy to change them if there's a better way anyone can pointout... | | geek_tessal | July 18, 2008, 11:46 am | #18 | | Geez i haven't done a defrag since win98se
these days you can have a re-install up, all drivers loaded under an hour...how long does a defrag take these days? | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 11:48 am | #19 | | 10-15 minutes :) for minebut i try and keep my C drive clean and tidy!! | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 11:49 am | #20 | | I dont know when the last time i did one but its going ot take me over an hour. | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:53 am | #21 | | Some times house keeping takes a while laj3 ,just like running your anti virus/spyware applications ... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 11:53 am | #22 | | Re 10 ( icioufa ) There were two 'sites'. TM Computing MB Wiki-XP system 32 boot fault fix & TM Computing MB Wiki Bios Beep codes. And I would also like to advice you lot that I do not understand the tech language you ppl talk about here, so I just try and do my utmost best to follow directions. Thanks. | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:56 am | #23 | | Btw safemode is the best option tap f8 on PC startup go into safe mode which just loads the minimum windows applications needed to run ,otherwise you have some applications writing to your hdd when defraging, which makes it considerable longer as it keeps restarting the defrag... | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 11:57 am | #24 | | Same here ottoitis lol i would normaly be playing games but my laptop at fix it shop. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 11:57 am | #25 | | No 13 ( icioufa ) Removed it through control panel uninstaller, I think. I don't even remember but I haven't seen any Norton icon on desk top if that's any help. | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 11:59 am | #26 | | But i stll wana use the net icioufa . | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 12:03 pm | #27 | | Re go to the site posted in for the download & instructions...re using ccleaner will help cleanup any Norton's left on your PC.. thats the price you pay that or leave it till when your not going to use your pc late at night when in bed etc... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 12:08 pm | #28 | | do a search like this /start search /all file & folders type in Norton & search then delete whats found then do another on Symantec ...& the run ccleaner again | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 12:10 pm | #29 | | Again have an appointment so will be back might be a couple of hours doing some tutoring on software & installing ram..cheers | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 12:14 pm | #30 | | Just incase use this 1st before deleting any folders or files.. http://tinyurl.com/973s7 | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 12:23 pm | #31 | | Cya icioufa . | | geek_ringo2 | July 18, 2008, 12:24 pm | #32 | | Sexylady following your instructions with interest.I have 21 items on start up | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 12:27 pm | #33 | | Re no. 16 (sexylady) This was what I did: Click on start(bottom left hand corner); click 'run'; click 'system ini'; five boxes are ticked, (1) 16 bit app support (2) drives (3) mci (4)drivers32 (5) 386enh) if that's what you mean? | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 12:30 pm | #34 | | Sexylady Or just click on start and I have 22 items. I get all mixed up. | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 12:30 pm | #35 | | I have 31 on start up. re33 do u hace ccleaner becuse u can see it trough that. | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 12:32 pm | #36 | | Ringo thats about 15 or so to many lol basically you should only need things like AntiVirus, AntiSpyware & Firewalls starting up on boot (not much else). Follow Icioufa's instructions for Ccleaner. Ottotis Click Start (bottom left hand corner) Click on Run - in the little box type in "msconfig" (withouth the ") it will open in the General Tab, look to the top right of the box and click on the Startup tabthen count the number of things that are ticked :) | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 12:35 pm | #37 | | Lol My startup tab has 3 tiems ticked only AntiVirus/Spy and firewall & ATI Catalyst (as i run 3 computers through a KVM switch onto dual monitors i need the resolutions loading correctly) if i didn't then that would be gone as well and i would only have 2 things. Machine starts quite nicely :) | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 12:44 pm | #38 | | But how do we know what ones sould be on start up list & what should be off. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 12:55 pm | #39 | | If it's any help........I still have Internet Explorer(no add ons) on desk-top, even though I haven't used it since I use Firefox(default). | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 1:01 pm | #40 | | Re 36 (sexylady) I think I have 36 items!!!!!!!!!!!! And I don't even know what they are! | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 1:16 pm | #41 | | Lol ottoitis ummmm thats way to many, no wonder the poor we thing is slow to startfollow icioufa's advice and download Ccleaner and run it basically youu nly need your Antivirus, anti spyware and firewalls startingCcleaner allows you to stop the start up items that you don't need. | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 1:19 pm | #42 | | To Quote icioufa’s instructions on useCcleaner http://tinyurl.com/2evrfl save d/l & install then run Ccleaner go into Options/advanced/ and untick the box "Only delete files in temp folder older than 48Hrs" GO back to cleaner & tick or untick each of the application you want cleaned ,I always start by ticking all ,your choice ,be aware that some data jpg etc can be stored in strange places like the temp folder /recycle bin which will be emptied by Ccleaner these folders should be checked by going here 1st start/control panel/Internet options /settings /view files/view objects checking here before ticking on Ccleaner & checking in recycle bin/then analyze /when finished run cleaner/ click-on registry/then scan for issues/fix selected issues/save back ups & delete latter on when all clear /fix all selected issues/OK/close/repeat till none. This is best performed in safe mode Tap f8 on PC start-up http://tinyurl.com/yw4rr NOTE this will do a general Clean outyou will have to get him to do NICE instructions on Cleaning Startup | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 1:23 pm | #43 | | Thx sexylady thats what i need him to do. . | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 2:06 pm | #44 | | Back again ,i do myself out $$$ lol installed ram & taught a lady how to watermark & upload jpgs....here's how to findout what the programs are, that are loading at startup ...open CCleaner/tools/startup you can delete applications or disable them which is a good choice, then delete if you really dont need them in the future from starting when PC starts up using these for online databases to findout what they are
type in the name for identification from http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/ http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php?submit=&filter=&submit.x=13&submit.y=4 | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 2:36 pm | #45 | | Correction re above.................Exactly 33 items, and, I have written 'em down on paper!!!!!! Cheers. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 2:54 pm | #46 | | Re No. 42.............I doubt if I'll be able to follow those instructions and execute them!!!!!!!!!!!!. But I'll take my time. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 3:43 pm | #47 | | My 33 Items....AGRSMMSG.exe--RTHDCPL.EXE--ALCMTR.EXE--NDSTray.exe--
DLACTRLW--SmoothView--TvsTray--thotKey--TFncKy--
TdispVol--SynTPEnh--ZCfgSvc--ifrmwrk--
TPSMain--jusched--gnotify--LifeExp--
vVX1000--KHALMNPR--mm_tray--mmtask--argtray--
igfxtray--hkcmd--igfxpers--QTTask--AppleSyndNotifier--
LogitechDesktopMe--ctfman--AdobeReaderSpe--Logitech SetPoint--RAMASST. The 1st 26 located at HKLM software/microsoftwindows(current version) Next 3 located at HKCU software microsoftwindows(current version). The last 4 at Common Start-up. That's all there is to it! Thanks again. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 3:49 pm | #48 | | From the above 33....................i don't have a clue what I'm using them for. Some are uppercases, others uper and lower, others all lower etc etc. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 3:51 pm | #49 | | Oops.....suppose to be upper | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 4:25 pm | #50 | | Will look over your list now.... | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 4:33 pm | #51 | | Avgtray you need to LEAVE as that is for avg, could you tell me if you have any Antispyware software that you use, if not then almost everything else can be Disabled (don't delete anything just disable them) | | geek__sexylady_ | July 18, 2008, 4:37 pm | #52 | | Please someone correct me if i'm wrong though!!! and they need to keep something else as well. | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 5:41 pm | #53 | | So have u changed the start up yet, i havent . | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 7:29 pm | #54 | | Re 51..............As far as I know about spywares etc, I only have AVG. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 7:32 pm | #55 | | Re 53 (laj3) What do you mean change start-up?
I haven't touched anything yet, thanks. | | geek_1clickaway | July 18, 2008, 7:54 pm | #56 | | Disable From the 'list'; It appears that you DO have trojans; (http://www.simplysup.com/) While this is a TRIAL version and only last 30days: It will 'clean' up those unwanted files: Click START: Click ALL PROGRAMS; Click START UP; And DELETE ALL programs that is there; (saves the booting up time) Run CCleaner too; Also antivir is a great program for viruses (ts free) Spybot will pick up loose files and cookies that are about; A good LEARNING curve is to enter any of the programs that are running (ie when you look at what process is running; either in MSCONFIG or by pressing ALT+CTRL+DEL and clicking on PROCESSES) In Google; (ie if we wanted to know what thokey.exe is; We would find that it http://tinyurl.com/6oqnmd) :) | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:11 pm | #57 | | Leave these to startup AGRSMMSG.exe ,RTHDCPL.EXE, | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:11 pm | #58 | | Disable these from startingALCMTR.EXE,SmoothView,TvsTray.exe,jusched,mm_tray,mmtask,igfxtray,igfxpers,QTTask,LogitechDeskt<br />opMe, | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:11 pm | #59 | | These ones are your choice to run at startup NDSTray.exe, DLACTRLW thotKey ,TFncKy,TdispVol,SynTPEnh,ZCfgSvc,TPSMain,gnotify,LifeExp,KHALMNPR,hkcmd,Logitech SetPoint,RAMASST, | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:11 pm | #60 | | Don't knows???? Search Term Not Found ifrmwrk,vVX1000,argtray,AppleSyndNotifier,ctfman,AdobeReaderSpe, didi you copy them correctly???? | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:15 pm | #61 | | VVX1000= Associated with Microsoft's VX-1000 LifeCam webcams so it could be disabled... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:18 pm | #62 | | AdobeReaderSpe i would guest this is adobereader & say disable it.... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:23 pm | #63 | | Re 0 if YOU use this site & type in the your choice i posted in 9, you will see what they are associated with & decide if they are what you use often so leave to start http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/ | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:25 pm | #64 | | That should read re # 59 not re # 60.... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 9:27 pm | #65 | | Re 56 (1clickaway) As I am very limited in understanding the above, I will try, but slowly. I also got these 'services'. 89 of them. 56 are 'running'. 33 are 'stopped'. 73 by Microsoft; 9 are 'unknown'; AVG has 2; Toshiba 1; Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. Ltd; Intel Corp. has 4. These are for your information on the services I have on board. ( to the best of my knowledge, anyway) | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 9:34 pm | #66 | | Re 60 (icioufa) Yes, I copied them correctly. I just did a check on ifrmewrk, it's a file in "C Intel......... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 9:42 pm | #67 | | Re60 (icioufa) AppleSyncNotifier; avgtray | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:43 pm | #68 | | Ifrmewrk isnt ifrmwrk which you posted in 0 ...lol how many more aren't spelt right??? makes it very difficult to research if they're not spelt right... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:46 pm | #69 | | AppleSyncNotifier http://tinyurl.com/5zmogt | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:48 pm | #70 | | Avgtray yes leave to start it's your AVG8 anti... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 9:51 pm | #71 | | Re 58 (icioufa) I do use a cordless mouse by Logitech. It won't affect mouse if I disable it? I'll do it anyway and see what happens. Thanks. | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 9:56 pm | #72 | | Thats the good thing about ccleaner just go back to the startup list & enable it if you need it... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 10:01 pm | #73 | | Re 68 (icioufa) Accept my humble apology for misspelt words. Also, while we are here, in 69, what do I do? Thanks again. | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 10:03 pm | #74 | | Yeh i fixed the start up abit, just went to that beeping website opened ccleaner and typed in all the things on start up to see what they were and if they were not needed it disabled them. | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 10:07 pm | #75 | | Even your post on 63, I don't have clue what bleeping etc means or what to do with it! Sorry. | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 10:11 pm | #76 | | Re 69 read ther link i posted You really didn’t need it unless you had an iPhone or an iTouch iPod but that didn’t stop Apple from including it as an Service for all iTunes users.re 3 copy & paste that link in your browser then type in those ones i posted for your choice & deciede if you use those application if you do leave them to startup | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 10:12 pm | #77 | | Well done laj3 now your learning...lol | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 10:14 pm | #78 | | Ok u know when ur in the start up thing and it has all the things that start up on start up well u get the progran name and type it into this web site (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/) and it will tell u what they do and if you should disable it or leace it going. | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 10:15 pm | #79 | | Srry disable or LEAVE going . | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 10:20 pm | #80 | | Ctfman & not ctfmon.just checking if this is the correct spelling??? | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 10:23 pm | #81 | | What???????????????????????????? . | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 10:25 pm | #82 | | Not you laj3 ottoitis can you check??? or as 1clickaway said you have spyware... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 10:35 pm | #83 | | Re 76 (icioufa) Would you be offended if I tell you I don't even know how to 'copy and paste that link onto your browser'. I am surviving by 'trial and error' and the assistance I get from here whether I understand it or not. And maybe others are watching and learning as we proceed with threads!! I think I need a rest. Thanks. Oh, yeah, I have disabled Re56 post, and restart pc, running fine I suppose...... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 10:38 pm | #84 | | Re 82(icioufa) How do I check for spyware? I only have AVG Free edition if that helps? | | geek_laj3 | July 18, 2008, 10:41 pm | #85 | | Could u under stand what i said ottoitis? . | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 10:42 pm | #86 | | None taken to copy & paste hold the left side of your mouse button down over the link & drag it accross it, it will highlight in Blue then you go right click on the mouse & use the copy from the box that opens then open your browser hold the end of the mouse in the address bar right click using the box that opens then hit paste then hit enter on your keypad | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 10:44 pm | #87 | | Practice on these they are good & free http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/download/
http://www.superantispyware.com/
with superantisyware use ccleaner startup
list to disable from starting at startup... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 10:45 pm | #88 | | Re 80......ctfmon is correct spelling. I had to use magnifying glass with my reading glasses!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yes, I'm very close to sixty, (now that you have an idea why I have been stupid for not knowing what you people are talking about). | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 10:56 pm | #89 | | Leave ctfmon then if you have ms office installed if you dont it's spyware use those i posted 1st ...thotkey.exe = http://www.processlibrary.com/directory/files/thotkey | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 10:57 pm | #90 | | Re 87 (icioufa).....you know when I look at http:/www.emsisoft.com/en/software/download I type http:/www.emsisoft.com I was there and it's paid version. Do I look for free one some where there? | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 10:59 pm | #91 | | Yes trhrid one down a-squared Free 3.5 | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 11:04 pm | #92 | | Re 85 (laj3)......Sorry, I just can not keep up with you lot. I don't possess the 'know how' as you people do. Now, where were we? | | geek_olack | July 18, 2008, 11:15 pm | #93 | | Hey ottoitis...I have some very good tricks I use all the time. And time and time again I get further than before noticing the computer is fast and efficient. No purchases involved... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:18 pm | #94 | | Downloading the antispyware /Trojan removers download then install update then run the deep scan ,leave it running & go to bed it will scan through the night this thread will still be here , fresh brain in the morning always helps good luck will check back on this thread ...i can see a hundy coming up... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:20 pm | #95 | | Olack just wait till he's mastered this problem feel free to post, but dont confuse ... | | geek_ottoitis | July 18, 2008, 11:24 pm | #96 | | Re 91 (icioufa) Downloading in progress. Do I still keep my AVG Free Edition? | | geek_olack | July 18, 2008, 11:24 pm | #97 | | Sure, ici, I thought I would wait for a response from the thread starter, ottoitis this time. I am beginning to get the hints ici... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:25 pm | #98 | | Yes avg is an antivirus those i listed are antispyware trojan removers... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:33 pm | #99 | | I see avg antispyware is now compined with AVG anti virus 8 , still down load & scan with a-squared ... | | geek_icioufa | July 18, 2008, 11:34 pm | #100 | | Hundy good luck .... | | geek_olack | July 18, 2008, 11:36 pm | #101 | | If asks about my tricks...you know where and when to find me... | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 10:37 am | #102 | | Howe the download coming? Hey ici how many do u think would be good inn start up because i still have 18 thing in start up list. | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 10:43 am | #103 | | I only have 3...both on Vista & Xp, the choice is yours , laptops & desktops have different amounts of applications needing to start check out those links i posted for confirmation... | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 10:45 am | #104 | | Yeh the ones that are left were not one the list or said they should be left to run so thats where there is that many, also the comp is old only 512mb ram. | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 10:47 am | #105 | | 512mb is ok for XP i installed another 256mb in a xp desktop yesterday , that lady was rapped @ how quick it had become from what it was like... | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 10:51 am | #106 | | Yes but you were having problems with possible spyware as well, so i would be careful, use an online scan to check using trendmicro ...http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 10:53 am | #107 | | That spyware was with my brand new laptop that i sent to shop to fix. | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 10:55 am | #108 | | BTW laj3 maybe even hijackthis which coincidently you're doing to this thread,start you own it's easier ,then those helping can see what advice has been offered & done... | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 10:58 am | #109 | | Iv finished now and was doing the same start up clean to my desktop, so now are happy and was just seeing how the other peson was doin. | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 12:35 pm | #110 | | Hello/good after noon all in here.............Installed & ran a-squared. To cut a long story short, 109 infections found. 103 low risk; 3 medium risk. | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 12:42 pm | #111 | | The sources from R3 110..........C/Documents-Trace Tracking Cookie; System Volume-Adware Win32.180Solut; HKEY-Trace Registry GoldenCasino; Workssetup-Trace.DirectorySpyware. I also had a peep at HiJackFree, but that's another story. Also it says my license expires in 29 days!!!!!!! | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 12:59 pm | #112 | | Re 110 106 low risk(not 103) | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 1:05 pm | #113 | | Background Guard Settings.............1o boxes there, 9 ticked, 1 unticked(Block Tracking Cookies Automatically) I don't why, let alone understand them. | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 1:50 pm | #114 | | Icioufa....or any helper......................Shall I get rid of 'set-up icon' on desk-top for a-squared Anti-Malware? Thanks. | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 2:27 pm | #115 | | Yes you can delete the desktop icon shortcut for Asquared from your desktop....highjackfree ????whats that ????& licences expires in 29 days Please explain where this notice comes from & what it involves??.... | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 2:46 pm | #116 | | From reading your posts did you d/l a-squared Anti-Malware 3.5 ? & Not the 3rd one down which was Asquared Free 3.5...remember to be precise with your description's, makes it very difficult to analyze from here, if i dont know what you're taking about if you misspelled something... | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 3:53 pm | #117 | | Re 116....It was the 3rd one. Download a-squared
Free-Free for private use | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 4:00 pm | #118 | | Re 5 please explain 29 days left why from what/where are you getting this ?,i will help as much as i can as we have visitors at the moment.but will reply to you answers... | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 4:02 pm | #119 | | Re 116There are 2 packs; $39.95, and the Mamutu $29.95. and I got the a-squared Free, I clicked on 'read more' and took me to Clean your PC with a-squared Free, this was d/l | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 4:06 pm | #120 | | And it came with.......Security Status; Scan PC; Quarantine; Background Guard; Configuration; HiJackfree | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 4:16 pm | #121 | | On the page.....................a-squared Downloads, top one is: a-squared Anti-Malware 3.5; middle one is: Mamutu 1.7; and 3rd one, is the one I d/l. I think I might have got the wrong d/l? Shall I uninstall current one and do a d/l on free one? | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 4:23 pm | #122 | | Icioufa..................What do I do to infected files I got in Quarantine? If this is paid version, which I'm starting to think it is, at least I had a play with it.I think it's the way they set-up there pages that mixes me up . I read it too fast or something! | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 4:36 pm | #123 | | Leave them in Quarantine you can uninstall them anytime, No harm done, i see where hijackfree came from now , use the online scan at trendmicro too ,do it at night as sometimes it takes quite a while depending on the size of your Harddrive's that they scan ... | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 4:39 pm | #124 | | Trendmicro is posting 6 good luck i will keep an eye on this thread.... | | geek_otto205 | July 19, 2008, 4:44 pm | #125 | | Response could be a virus. | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 5:40 pm | #126 | | Hey...............I c you on board! Help us here! | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 5:44 pm | #127 | | What u need help with? , | | geek_icioufa | July 19, 2008, 5:44 pm | #128 | | Yeah i'm here whats up ??? | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 7:57 pm | #129 | | Hi icioufa & laj3..........I was just referring to otto205, thanks. Anyway, if this is the paid version I had installed, I 'have to' uninstall it before installing free one? I saw you can also d/l HiJackFree
by itself for free. | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 8:00 pm | #130 | | What u need it for any way? . | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 8:04 pm | #131 | | This is the one i think u need to d/l http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/ go to the botom of the page and it says download. corect me if im wrong. | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 8:15 pm | #132 | | As I mentioned before...................the one I have says expires in 29 days. So I presume I d/l paid version by myself not reading it properly. | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 8:23 pm | #133 | | Well i would just wait untill it expires and if i does uninstall it and get the free one. | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 9:06 pm | #134 | | I am now...............scanning with Trend Micro | | geek_laj3 | July 19, 2008, 9:22 pm | #135 | | Well good luck have to go now . | | geek_pheonix | July 19, 2008, 9:29 pm | #136 | | The free version gives you a trial of the paid version for 30days, then reverts to the free version. All that happens is that it no longer stays "live" looking all the time for malware, but you have to manually scan with it. Also you will lose the automatic updates and will have to manually update. Otherwise they are basically the same. | | geek_ottoitis | July 19, 2008, 10:00 pm | #137 | | Thanks pheonix......I'll leave it as it is then. As I said Re134, it was into 2 and three quarter mins. until finish when a window pop on centre of screen with words it has to close 'cause of an error and to report the error. I clicked send report, was shutting down PC, nothing happens, program didn't respond and won't close. I had to pull the plug and restart PC. Box with 'restart session' or 'start new session', I opted 'start new session'. I think I won't use Trend Micro again. | | geek_ottoitis | July 20, 2008, 10:48 am | #138 | | Con't.........................Had a peek in "System Configuration Utility", System INI--all boxes checked, Win. INI--all boxes checked, Boot INI--none checked. Please advice/comment. Thanks. | | geek_pheonix | July 20, 2008, 11:02 am | #139 | | Advice Stay out of those unless you definitely know what you are doing. They can be dangerous. Just stick to the startup. | | geek_ottoitis | July 20, 2008, 6:57 pm | #140 | | Icioufa read 134 and advice again.............and just done a speed test. Download: 4230 kb/s; Upload 126kb/s. A 2nd test done few minutes after: 4286kp/s; 135kp/s. ISP Telecom(Auck). I haven't 'touched' Trendmicro since my episode last night. | | geek_ottoitis | July 20, 2008, 6:59 pm | #141 | | Sorry icioufa read 137(not 134) thanks again. | | geek_icioufa | July 20, 2008, 8:29 pm | #142 | | You could have spyware still only way to findout is to keep doing scans,never come across that error or send reports, but then again i don't use i.e either,if you don't want to use trendmicro again ,I would till it finishes the scan & gives you a result with options to repair, you could try a number of others like panda...http://tinyurl.com/33evjg Do you have the XP cd that came with your Pc ? as you might in the end have to do a number of different repairs to fix any corrupt system files... | | geek_icioufa | July 20, 2008, 8:38 pm | #143 | | This panda here http://tinyurl.com/4u4o | | geek_ottoitis | July 20, 2008, 9:37 pm | #144 | | Icioufa look at.......the dates re 142 & 143. Doesn't make sense how 19th july under your 20th july. Anyway, I'll wait until tomorrow then I scan mine again with 'trendmicro', You have been a great help and the others whom are too numerous to list. Thanks again. | | geek_icioufa | July 20, 2008, 9:49 pm | #145 | | Re 142 /143 both are dated 20th from here,start your scan tonight before you go to bed thats what i do ,then wake up to the results & choose the repairGood luck post any problems if any, will be around tomorrow for a while will watch this thread for you.... | | geek_icioufa | July 20, 2008, 9:52 pm | #146 | | BTW have seen that before it's Tm out of sink...refresh you page it will come right... | | geek_ottoitis | July 20, 2008, 9:56 pm | #147 | | Re 142............The i.e you refer to is Internet Explorer? If so, I use Firefox. As for CD,I couldn't find it(yet). And how do you 'read' http://tinyurl.com/4u40?
How do I 'get' 4u40 when I open the above? I never understand these 'paths' anyway.,the likes of: hppt://tinyurl.com/en/software/, it's those after the .com/............... | | geek_ottoitis | July 20, 2008, 9:58 pm | #148 | | The above hppt was meant to be http. | | geek_icioufa | July 20, 2008, 10:04 pm | #149 | | Either right click copy & paste or type into Firefox, it's a tinyurl as some url's are to long to post & break up in the posting & wont open when you try posting in you browsers address bar... | | geek_icioufa | July 20, 2008, 10:05 pm | #150 | | Another fiddy longest thread Ive been in yeah....lol | | geek_ottoitis | July 21, 2008, 9:42 am | #151 | | Icioufa......................Ran trendmicro lastnite,result this morn: 1 affected cookie(profiling cookie). Click on 'clean-up', all done. But, it says this has to be removed manually: 'Buffer overrun in JPEG Processing(GDI+) could allow code Execution(833987) | | geek_ottoitis | July 21, 2008, 9:48 am | #152 | | Con't from above.............Detected vulnerabilities: Buffer overrun in JPEG Processing (GDI+)Could allow code execution(833987) | | geek_pheonix | July 21, 2008, 9:51 am | #153 | | What that is saying is you still have a security hole and need to run Windows update. What they are referring to is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833987 | | geek_icioufa | July 21, 2008, 9:53 am | #154 | | Yes thats what i came up with too... | | geek_icioufa | July 21, 2008, 9:59 am | #155 | | Re # 80 thats why i asked if this was the correct spelling "ctfmon" | | geek_ottoitis | July 21, 2008, 10:35 am | #156 | | That is............correct spelling. Located in HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion it says. | | geek_icioufa | July 21, 2008, 10:53 am | #157 | | Ok thats why i asked cause you had a different spelling"ctfman" which could have been spyware ,But thats OK cause "ctfmon" is associated with m$ office... | | geek_ottoitis | July 21, 2008, 10:56 am | #158 | | According to task manager.......Image name:ctfmon.exe; User(myself); CPU 00; Memory Usage 1416K; if that enlightens the task. | | geek_icioufa | July 21, 2008, 11:02 am | #159 | | Thats ok you now know why ...next lol | | geek_ottoitis | July 21, 2008, 1:14 pm | #160 | | So far..............'Start up now 60secs; compared with 1min 44secs in my 1st post. 23 items on start. I'll google 'em if I can disable some more. Thanks icioufa and pheonix. I still have this ctfmon to take care of. There are about 8 or more Microsoft/help downloads I have to choose from. | | geek_laj3 | July 21, 2008, 4:45 pm | #161 | | So it seems that ur computer has improved so that is good for u just wondering if u dont mind how much ram does ur computer have ottoitis. thx | | geek_ottoitis | July 21, 2008, 10:10 pm | #162 | | Re 161(laj3)...........No, I don't mind at all. It only has 512, I know, I had a peek(out of curiosity), and sorry for the late response. I'm still learning though(slowly I might add). cheers. | | geek_ottoitis | July 21, 2008, 10:13 pm | #163 | | Will another...................addition of 512MB improves performance or take it up to 1GB? Any limits to amount of RAM installed? Or...................thanks. | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 12:15 am | #164 | | Icioufa............See if this any good? 'Fee Performance Scan'.............thanks. | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 3:11 am | #165 | | Depending on your motherboard which you would need to find out ask & i can post a link, then google your M/B specifications to see what it will allow you to use up to & accept , under normal circumstances 512mb is ample for everyday use on Xp ,again depending on what you use your PC for...as for your "Free performance scan" never used them myself,but would need a link to comment further..... | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 4:51 am | #166 | | I told a lie, had a think about what i have used closes i get to the above performance scan will also tell you whats missing & what you need to know for motherboard/ram ...http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html also this is brillant for updating out of date software with security issues do the online scan here http://secunia.com/software_inspector/ | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 5:37 am | #167 | | BTW belarc wont tell you the type of ram used or need this one will http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html d/l the standalone which is my choice you can choose the installer if you like,once you open siw you need to look at the memory/then memory type. motherboard will tell you what you were looking for to google for specs on the maximum amount you can install... | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 12:21 pm | #168 | | Re164.............Forget it. No idea where I got it from. 16 items on start-up now(from 33?). 56.8secs. I'll try and follow your 166 & 167. | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 12:33 pm | #169 | | RAM specs...........................512MB 2Rx16 PC2-4200S.444.12; HYMP564S64BP6-C4.AB 0639. Would this help? thanks. | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 12:47 pm | #170 | | Nope it will say something like sdram pc133, pc166 etc or ,ddr, pc2700 pc3200 512mb etc ? | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 12:49 pm | #171 | | What we are trying to find out is if it's sdram or DDR ... | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 1:02 pm | #172 | | Quarantine..................I would like to 'delete' the quarantine infections. Will it affect anything re performance or anything? this is the source: C:\Documents&Settings\Otto\App except one which has Coo instead of App. Behavior/Infection: Trace Tracking Cookie. Risk: Low. Hope the above makes sense! cheers. | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 1:04 pm | #173 | | Re 169From RAM I have in PC. | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 1:07 pm | #174 | | Re 2 go ahead & delete it's only a tracking cookie,9 what application did you use to find out the ram specs? | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 1:09 pm | #175 | | Use this one from post 7 http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 1:15 pm | #176 | | Toshiba Satellite A 100 system unit model PSAA8A-1C003Q Pls. note: zeroes between C & 3 have forward slash in centre. (Don't know how to insert 'em) | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 1:28 pm | #177 | | Going by that info you have 512MB DDR2 533MHz installed...not being rude but because of the past troubles it might pay for a tech to install it for you, better safe than sorry pulling a laptop apart to insert more ram | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 1:41 pm | #178 | | Had a look...................at HTML Log and saw 3 properties? I saw this 'how to....' video about installing RAM etc.. you insert it at about 45 degree angle? and you have to ground/demagnetize yourself? I did open the back of PC and saw 1 slot empty, I even took photos of it. So maximum capacity is 4096MB or?? thanks. | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 1:43 pm | #179 | | I think ......I need a break. It is getting confusing. What makes it worse is I hardly know anything about computers!!!! | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 1:45 pm | #180 | | 4096 is virtual memory not Ram & if you have opened it up & seen where you insert the ram go for it ... | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 4:20 pm | #181 | | This was whatI was referring to about RAM installation: http://videos.howstuffworks.com/howstuffworks/49-how-to-add-ram-to-a-laptop-video.htm | | geek_ottoitis | July 22, 2008, 4:23 pm | #182 | | Maybe you.................have seen this but here it is again. What do you reckon? Is it real? | | geek_icioufa | July 22, 2008, 5:09 pm | #183 | | Yes, seen it before have posted for other users to install laptop ram, that didnt know how...handy site that How stuff works... | | geek_dillis | July 22, 2008, 8:01 pm | #184 | | Try defaging the computer to free us the ram | | geek_ottoitis | July 23, 2008, 12:12 am | #185 | | Icioufa..........Done the ccleaner thingy | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 5:02 am | #186 | | Good one ottoitis you should use ccleaner at least once a week & check your startups unless your installing & uninstalling a lot of programs then you can to it daily if you choose, cleaning up residue left in the registry from the uninstalls, as for the above suggestion defragging will help put your files back in order in you o/s Hdd file system,which will help speed up the launching of an application (nothing to do with Ran),because then it wont have to go searching for the last place it was placed in your file system when used last ....Defrag for the best results do it in safemode ,Tap F8 on pc startup go into safemode from the options offered then defrag.... | | geek_deodar | July 23, 2008, 5:27 am | #187 | | FFS IT WOULD HELP TO KNOW WHICH O/S & how many are involved here.XP/Vista
98???If Vista there is a no brainer
to start up fast;regardles of whats running.Or did I miss something amongst all the forest,some trees??? | | geek_deodar | July 23, 2008, 10:19 am | #188 | | Must be a Full Moon The Lunatics are on the lawn.copyrite
to Pink Floyd. | | geek_ottoitis | July 23, 2008, 11:06 am | #189 | | Icioufa........ccleaner...Hardly do in/uninstall programs; defrag done 17/6/08; Start-up now 56.4; I'm still uncertain about ccleaner. I'll look then post later. | | geek_ottoitis | July 23, 2008, 11:14 am | #190 | | Correction...........Defrag done 17/7/08 not June as stated above. | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 11:43 am | #191 | | 7 deodar "Or did I miss something amongst all the forest,some trees???" ...nah the"Boat"...lol | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 12:18 pm | #192 | | Deodar with so many fixes so far,could only be XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833987 | | geek_ottoitis | July 23, 2008, 7:48 pm | #193 | | As I am using Mozilla Firefox browser........I saw somewhere about browsers Netscape, Mozilla or Firefox; Is there a 'Mozilla' browser and a 'Firefox' browser? | | geek_laj3 | July 23, 2008, 7:51 pm | #194 | | MOvilla is firefox i thought . | | geek_ottoitis | July 23, 2008, 7:56 pm | #195 | | Also...............Re CCleaner under Options, there are 4 headings: Settings, Cookies, Include, Exclude. Don't really quite understand what/where to tick and what not.........? thanks. | | geek_laj3 | July 23, 2008, 8:02 pm | #196 | | Where it says cookies when u delete them u lose things such as ur trademe auto log in but if u put the trademe cookie in the dont delete one on the other side u wont lose the auto login. | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 8:06 pm | #197 | | If you can remember your passwords you will be in serious trouble in the future ,i delete them all... | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 8:08 pm | #198 | | If you cant remember lol.. | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 8:12 pm | #199 | | My 1st 2 hundy yeah too much...lol ... | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 8:12 pm | #200 | | Most cookies get old & stale by clearing your cache & cookies it refeshes them when you go back to the site & loads a new one... | | geek_ottoitis | July 23, 2008, 8:36 pm | #201 | | I just created a GMail Drive.................of nearly 7 or more GB after reading/following instructions from one of the sites I strayed into. Sitting on "My Computer" on desk-top. Was created from Gmail(after clicking on filter or something in Gmail. | | geek_ottoitis | July 23, 2008, 9:07 pm | #202 | | Re rams, icioufa.......Memory for my pc: Slots PC4300 256MB, 512MB, 1024MB or 2048MB memory modules can be installed in the two memory slots for a maximum of 4096 system memory. Not sure how many 'pins' though. | | geek_deodar | July 23, 2008, 9:37 pm | #203 | | 2 yeah I figured icioufa But it's essential to be informed up
front.If I ring my Garage & ask the
timing for my car......?What'll they
do guess make/model/engine? | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 9:47 pm | #204 | | Granted a lot of assuming directory path is xp plus other instruction further on...must be that crystal Ball...lol | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 9:47 pm | #205 | | Re 3 # 202 Laptop RAM is called SODIMM ... | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 9:49 pm | #206 | | Re # 202 so you are looking to buy PC4300 SODIMM....one of these sizes 256MB, 512MB, 1024MB or 2048MB your choice... | | geek_icioufa | July 23, 2008, 9:53 pm | #207 | | Buy DDR2 from the info i found but re check the memory type using siw before you Do... | | geek_ottoitis | July 24, 2008, 2:00 pm | #208 | | I might have to .................uncheck CCleaner 'Run CCleaner when pc starts-up'...............I always have to re-enter sites, say, I entered yesterday. | | geek_ottoitis | July 24, 2008, 4:04 pm | #209 | | Re 206...............The info on 202 from my laptop manual. Have skimmed through it understand only a little bit. | | geek_icioufa | July 24, 2008, 4:25 pm | #210 | | Re# 208 thats OK just click on ccleaner when you want to cleanup & do issues,as for the sites, it empties your cookies & cache thats why, which needs to be done regular ...have another read of your manual about Ram ,If you intend on upgrading... | | geek_ottoitis | July 24, 2008, 8:57 pm | #211 | | CCleaner on Options setting............what does 'Secure file deletion' and 'Normal file deletion' mean? Also what 'circle' shall I check? Thanks. | | geek_icioufa | July 24, 2008, 9:07 pm | #212 | | Ones faster than the other when scanning your choice,unless you have something to hide just choose normal...it's the amount of times it gets over written... | | geek_ottoitis | July 24, 2008, 10:43 pm | #213 | | Seen messages...................re AVG8 free edition. Some have removed it, slowing their pc down etc. I have AVG8 but not sure if slowing mine. If I remove it, will 4 squared 'cover' me until I get another free/best one? | | geek_ottoitis | July 24, 2008, 11:28 pm | #214 | | AVG8 Free edition.......................ever since installation it has 'caught 4 infections: Adware Generic3.EGN and all been moved to Vault. Should AVG detected more or...........? I think installed 30/5/08 | | geek_icioufa | July 25, 2008, 4:56 am | #215 | | No Asquared free is just back up for scannng downloaded applications exe zips rar's etc & scanning your PC, any one antivirus/spyware wont fully protect you ,you need another or several to scan with for spyware .If your not happy with AVG8 try another, i like Antivir = http://www.free-av.com/ which i have installed on 1 o/s here...BTW you did trendmicro dont lose that link, do it at least 1 a month for assurance that you o/s is clean... | | geek_ottoitis | July 25, 2008, 11:37 am | #216 | | It isn't that.................I don't like AVG8 Free, as you know I hardly know anything about these. I don't think mine is slow. So, AVG won't 'go against Antivir'? if I download/scan pc? cheers. | | geek_drcspy | July 25, 2008, 11:47 am | #217 | | Dumb idea: '201. I just created a GMail Drive.....................
of nearly 7 or more GB"....considering how cheap ACTUAL hard drive storage is these days.....and dvd's are ridiculously cheap.......storing your data on some server located in america or god knows where is STUPID...... | | geek_icioufa | July 25, 2008, 12:40 pm | #218 | | 216 it is best to uninstall AVG8 before installing another antivirus like the one i suggested,,,LOL "drcspy" huge learning curve going down cant you tell by the length of this thread, but agree with you with the cost of HDD he easily could buy an external for the laptop...i do have several gmail accounts that i use but am particular about what i let google/gmail know about my correspondence...lol | | geek_ottoitis | July 25, 2008, 6:57 pm | #219 | | Re 217........................the whole intention of that GMail Drive was to test my very very 'limited' knowledge of the electronic age. You see, I followed instructions read on line and I archived it first go. As you can see from 218,I am still learning, and, a long way too. I do thank icioufa for his time being spent on tutoring me. Cheers. And I hope the storm of tomorrow won't eventuate into what they are predicting!!! | | geek_ottoitis | July 25, 2008, 7:00 pm | #220 | | Oops....Suppose to spell achieved. | | geek_laj3 | July 25, 2008, 7:00 pm | #221 | | Yeh Icioufa is s good man as has given out sooooo much help to alot of people and i too hope that the storm is not too bad. | | geek_ottoitis | July 25, 2008, 10:31 pm | #222 | | Icioufa, I've finished.................installing/scan Avira free. and also PC Tools antivirus. Saw downloads between AVG Free(2,195,796) & Avira Free(445,488). (AVG was uninstalled) | | geek_icioufa | July 25, 2008, 10:52 pm | #223 | | You don't have two antivirus's installed at the same time the can conflict ,one or other not both... | | geek_ottoitis | July 26, 2008, 10:57 am | #224 | | This was what.................I was concerned about. First of all, start up now: 44secs. But, opening Firefox icon desk-top: 41.4secs. Speed seems alright. Now, do I uninstall PC Tools antivirus, or just keep an eye on it for the time being? thanks. | | geek_ottoitis | July 26, 2008, 11:11 am | #225 | | Read message..................about leaving wireless modem 'on' all the time? Mine off every time I finish using it for the day/night. | | geek_ottoitis | July 26, 2008, 11:25 am | #226 | | Icioufa..........My e-mails were checked by PC Tools when I checked inbox. | | geek_icioufa | July 26, 2008, 11:41 am | #227 | | If you're happy with PC tools & the fact it checks your emails go with Pctools ,uninstall Avira... | | geek_icioufa | July 26, 2008, 11:46 am | #228 | | BTW i dont use desktop icons shortcuts to launch any of my applications,try from All programs or find the FF icon in All programs right click/ pin to start menu, see if that launches your ff faster ... | | Leave your comment: | |
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