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Message Board > Orcon launches unbundled services
Orcon launches unbundled services| geek_rhys.m | March 13, 2008, 12:15 pm | #1 | | Orcon launches unbundled services http://www.orcon.net.nz/home/ |
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| | geek_demonknight | March 13, 2008, 1:09 pm | #2 | Bah Disappointing in my opinion, I remember all the promises they made about naked DSL being the next big thing and how much cheaper it would be. Not! To quote their website, "Orcon??™s next generation network currently covers 5 telephone exchanges in the Auckland area;
If this is not yet available to you, don??™t worry! We??™ll be bringing our services to more Auckland exchanges throughout 2008." Wow thanks for considering the rest of the country Orcon! | | geek_nzoomed | March 13, 2008, 1:31 pm | #3 | | I talked to orcon and they told me that they arent able to fully do it yey until telecom sort out the exchanges around NZ, although they will be ASAP, the ones in auckland are just trials for now, but they hope all of nz to be fully unbundled in the next 2-3 years | | geek_markfriend1 | March 13, 2008, 1:37 pm | #4 | | I wouldn't rely on telescum to be in a hurry . | | geek_cyberray | March 13, 2008, 2:41 pm | #5 | | I notice orcon are claiming a max speed of 24 megabit/sec downstream on their new ADSL2 if you live close to the exchanges in Ponsonby, Mt Albert, Browns Bay, Ellerslie, and Glenfield. Is anyone getting even 10 megabit/sec ? I'd be interested to know.. | | geek_nzoomed | March 13, 2008, 2:52 pm | #6 | | I thought ive seen posters here who are trialing adsl2 with orcon, and are supposledly getting those speeds, havnt heard much more though | | geek_oberkat | March 13, 2008, 2:59 pm | #7 | | .... where are you sood? Got an update? | | geek_soodanim | March 13, 2008, 3:01 pm | #8 | | Mt Albert on LLU trial 7 megabit/sec is the most and only once. Generally between 5.8 and 6.8 previously tho the highest was 4, not terribly impressed with the prices/plans either. | | geek_cyberray | March 13, 2008, 3:08 pm | #9 | | Re #8 yes soodanim I agree the prices suck ! Also, orcon doesn't have a plain Naked DSL option. ie 10 gig plan without a homeline for those of us who may use skype, and dont need a landline phone. The cheapest plan is $79 for just broadband ? noway get real orcon ! not all of us are stupid. | | geek_cyberray | March 13, 2008, 3:16 pm | #10 | | Or should I say they do but its $79 ? about $6 less than telecom charge for basic broadband AND a phoneline ? I thought unbundling was supposed to give us way better speeds and promote competition. What a wrought.. | | geek_soodanim | March 13, 2008, 3:30 pm | #11 | | They sure look pretty yuk...we currently pay $41 + $49.95 (+ GST) for 20GB soft cap. None of those plans are looking that great in comparison. It's not like the increase in speed is that great...if we were getting 24 megabit/sec but hmmmm | | geek_sirfer | March 13, 2008, 5:21 pm | #12 | | Mmm 24mbit/sec.... ...drools... | | geek_julieandcasper | March 13, 2008, 6:39 pm | #13 | | Sood, thanks for the update on your speeds, been wondering how you were going. | | geek_soodanim | March 13, 2008, 6:59 pm | #14 | | We've been charged for the "free trial" tho they've said it was an error and going to be credited, a month later nearly and it's still there....Now we are going to be given a month free on the GOLD+ plan (10GB and unlimited national) calls...10GB is feck all and it's $5 more than what we paid for 20GB softcap! What's up with that...so much for, as someones already said, LLU meaning better prices! | | geek_julieandcasper | March 13, 2008, 7:02 pm | #15 | :(... None of that sounds good. :(
Maybe I should just be happy with what I've got. | | geek_gi99a | March 13, 2008, 7:09 pm | #16 | Orcon is just another ISP... They only want one thing, your money so why are they any diff to Telecom? Telecom have had ADSL2+ for several months now, I have had it since December.... re http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/425827/1636724
LOL at "He says for the first time Kiwis will have access to fast, decent broadband and will be a step towards an international standard of broadband for New Zealanders." That is incorrect and also a pretty big commitment to keep there Scotty. | | geek_happy2buy | March 13, 2008, 7:11 pm | #17 | | I remember advertising from orcon last year stating that it would be $50 for naked broadband and all of nz would have it by September 2007. Telecom is only opening 6 exchanges per year. I will more than likely be dead by the time it reaches Wanganui. | | geek_swivel | March 13, 2008, 7:18 pm | #18 | | What a Joke And they are 10 years ahead of TC. Lol same old copper wire | | geek_gi99a | March 13, 2008, 7:18 pm | #19 | | Re#17 It was the comcom that decided the rate at which Telecom can open exchanges. remember, these exchanges belonged to Telecom as did the local loop and cabinets. To allow someone into an exchange they would have to ensure there was certain criteria met, e.g. the legalities of health and saftey, room in the exchange for the other providers to put there gear and perhaps to make sure it was nice and tidy and smelling of fresh pot-pourie to make it all lovely for the other ISP's ;-) | | geek_sighkick | March 13, 2008, 7:21 pm | #20 | | I heard 15 Exchanges every 3 months On the news tonight. I may have passed away from old age before anything decent gets to the backwoods here in New Plymouth. Besides, I think the charging schedule is WRONG. Back in the dial-up days you paid for Time and Data. If you swopped your 14k4 - 28k8 - 33k6 - 56k modems, you still paid for time and data, never speed. Now with ADSL, you are connected 24/7 so it should be based on DATA only. If you get a faster connection, you use up your data quicker and pay more if you go over your plan cap. Who thinks paying a premium for faster connections SUX? | | geek_hatsuko | March 13, 2008, 7:54 pm | #21 | | As stated somewhere here already Local loop unbundling has been a major disappointment so far. But we're dealing with Telecom here, so disappointment should expected by now. | | geek_julieandcasper | March 13, 2008, 8:12 pm | #22 | | Good point there sighkick. | | geek_gi99a | March 13, 2008, 8:21 pm | #23 | | Crikey sighkick how old are you? :-) LOL... Things have changed dude.... you pay for data and speed coz if it were cheap, people would abuse it... there is a cap on most things, e.g. speed limits for the open road to keep things in check. Bandwidth is not unlimited...were you on Broadband when Jetstream starter was about? that was initially unlimited till it got caned...then there was Go Large, it too got caned then scrapped coz it could not be properly traffic managed.... so how much of a "premium" do you charge for your services? | | geek_teroopu | March 13, 2008, 8:36 pm | #24 | | To say caps are there to keep things in check is a little overstated. Caps are there to set a price and it enables price hiking. I do rember Go Large, I also remeber telescum getting done for false advertising. For anyone to beleive that any ISP in shinning armour is goung to come along and save the consumer should stick to fairy tales. | | geek_gi99a | March 13, 2008, 8:48 pm | #25 | | Re#24 what do you mean "set a price"? of course you have to set a prices, thats just part of selling a product. And "price hiking" whatever do you mean there? can you provide proved some facts and figures on what prices we should have? | | Leave your comment: | |
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